It’s not too weird when you consider that macOS is a UNIX operating system. So you get many of the advantages of Linux/Unix through the terminal, with better app compatibility.
I’ve also heard macs are cheaper to maintain en masse than windows because of simpler tooling/group policy, which would be another a big reason it’s everywhere in tech.
I linked to a study upthread that shows IBM saving a few hundred dollars each when deploying Macs vs. Windows. Interestingly, the study also pointed out that employees using Macs did better on performance reviews.
It’s easier to develop (web based) software on mac than windows. It makes a lot of sense from the development side because it’s unix based while still offering all the robust AD/Corpo management features that Linux still misses in a lot of cases.
Node alone is a massive pain in the ass on windows (then again it’s a pain everywhere), but specifically working in the terminal is much easier as someone familiar with UNIX terminals. Technically windows cmd is fine, but it doesn’t handle basically anything I need for day to day work.
I’ve developed on windows too and I generally try to do anything to avoid it. Consistently having issues installing packages makes dev harder imo. Python, Node, Multiple Java versions, adhoc sh scripting and a bunch of other things are just easier on unix.
It also depends on what you develop. Web based software isn’t web based software. I develop web based software as well and close to half of that is spent in a terminal. With WSL2 it became bearable under Windows. But still not as nice as on a Unix based device.
I know folks that never leave their IDE for their job. And they probably don’t care much about the underlying OS. But that isn’t what my job looks like or that of the folks around me. So if someone told me it doesn’t matter I know they’ve only seen a small bubble of what web development is or can be.
If a dev told me it was ‘easier’ to develop web on a Mac, I’d know they were inexperienced or just wanted a company paid Mac.
First of all, if they’re a good developer and they want a Mac. Fuck me just give them one yeah? Chances are they’ll look for a job somewhere else if you refuse, and you’ll spend how many hours interviewing / inducting / training potential candidates, rejecting most of them, and for what, to save a few hundred bucks?
Anyway you’re dead wrong about web development being the same on all three platforms. Docker in particular is a completely unique beast on all three, and Docker is currently the easiest way to do web development on all three platforms. It runs native on Linux, in WSL on Windows, and in a VM on a Mac.
Of the three, the Mac is by far the worst way to run Docker. But the Mac has other advantages, just to name one they have a proper debug environment for the iPhone version of Safari. I could name others, but the only one I’ll mention is the Apple Silicon chipsets are really nice.
Another important thing that Macs have is support contracts. You’re not going to deploy a thousand Linux machines if the vendor doesn’t provide support for it, and a lot of vendors still don’t support Linux
Not necessarily. You’d be surprised. It’s generally this: what will do task X for Y cost and be maintained for Z. That and the level of control and usability and user reception will be what decides this. Not mac vs pc elitism or marketing.
He might be right, but it sure as shit won’t be MacOS replacing it.
Silicon Valley has run on Macs for years and years. I think it’s weird too, but there it is.
It’s not too weird when you consider that macOS is a UNIX operating system. So you get many of the advantages of Linux/Unix through the terminal, with better app compatibility.
I’ve also heard macs are cheaper to maintain en masse than windows because of simpler tooling/group policy, which would be another a big reason it’s everywhere in tech.
I linked to a study upthread that shows IBM saving a few hundred dollars each when deploying Macs vs. Windows. Interestingly, the study also pointed out that employees using Macs did better on performance reviews.
XNU is an abbreviation of X is Not Unix. MacOS borrows a lot from the Unix world, but itself is not actually a form of UNIX.
It’s easier to develop (web based) software on mac than windows. It makes a lot of sense from the development side because it’s unix based while still offering all the robust AD/Corpo management features that Linux still misses in a lot of cases.
I’ve developed web software for 25 years, on Linux, Windows and Mac and there is no difference other than what you are personally comfortable with.
If a dev told me it was ‘easier’ to develop web on a Mac, I’d know they were inexperienced or just wanted a company paid Mac.
Node alone is a massive pain in the ass on windows (then again it’s a pain everywhere), but specifically working in the terminal is much easier as someone familiar with UNIX terminals. Technically windows cmd is fine, but it doesn’t handle basically anything I need for day to day work.
I’ve developed on windows too and I generally try to do anything to avoid it. Consistently having issues installing packages makes dev harder imo. Python, Node, Multiple Java versions, adhoc sh scripting and a bunch of other things are just easier on unix.
It also depends on what you develop. Web based software isn’t web based software. I develop web based software as well and close to half of that is spent in a terminal. With WSL2 it became bearable under Windows. But still not as nice as on a Unix based device.
I know folks that never leave their IDE for their job. And they probably don’t care much about the underlying OS. But that isn’t what my job looks like or that of the folks around me. So if someone told me it doesn’t matter I know they’ve only seen a small bubble of what web development is or can be.
First of all, if they’re a good developer and they want a Mac. Fuck me just give them one yeah? Chances are they’ll look for a job somewhere else if you refuse, and you’ll spend how many hours interviewing / inducting / training potential candidates, rejecting most of them, and for what, to save a few hundred bucks?
Anyway you’re dead wrong about web development being the same on all three platforms. Docker in particular is a completely unique beast on all three, and Docker is currently the easiest way to do web development on all three platforms. It runs native on Linux, in WSL on Windows, and in a VM on a Mac.
Of the three, the Mac is by far the worst way to run Docker. But the Mac has other advantages, just to name one they have a proper debug environment for the iPhone version of Safari. I could name others, but the only one I’ll mention is the Apple Silicon chipsets are really nice.
lol, this truly deserves an Ok Boomer whether you are one or not.
Another important thing that Macs have is support contracts. You’re not going to deploy a thousand Linux machines if the vendor doesn’t provide support for it, and a lot of vendors still don’t support Linux
Not necessarily. You’d be surprised. It’s generally this: what will do task X for Y cost and be maintained for Z. That and the level of control and usability and user reception will be what decides this. Not mac vs pc elitism or marketing.
Yeah… we’ll see about that….
Macs have the advantage of having Unix under the hood while being supported by software vendors.
You see pics of college classrooms full of Macs. When they do startups they might very well choose Macs just because.