Mod Visigoth_860@lemmy.cafe posted a really creepy and pro-pedophilia post at https://lemmy.cafe/post/11105990

Mod immediately bans the two people that call it out as trolls.

Update: post is locked after two more bans

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
    6·
    9 hours ago

    link says couldnt_find_post

    if you wanna reiterate about a conversation online, it would be good to include screenshots of what was actually written. otherwise it’s hard to follow.

    edit: nvm i found an archive in the comments

  • Teppichbrand@feddit.org
    92·
    16 hours ago

    A paedophile is a person who’s sexually attracted to children before they hit puberty, so they lose interest in them around 10 or 11 years old. That weird (ex-)mod and all of you in here are talking about Ephebophilia, the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.
    (I’m not arguing in favor of any of this!)

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    13·
    1 day ago

    I think we can say this one is about wrapped up, they banned his mod account and the community from lemmy.cafe. Maybe he’ll start another somewhere else, but when that happens someone can just make another post.

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    18·
    2 days ago

    Yikes this is not good, this person probably should not be a mod of this community, or any community really. Sticking up for pedophilia is a really bad thing to do and also probably could get the instance in legal trouble. This is way past power tripping in my opinion, it could be a legal issue for the instance.

    lemmy.cafe’s admins should probably look into this and possibly kick out this mod, since it could possibly cause them some big issues later if he dos anything like this in the future.

    Edit: Archive.is Link CW: Pedophilia apologia.

    CC: @Illecors@lemmy.cafe @Gemini@lemmy.cafe @FartInTheWind@lemmy.cafe @bahmanm@lemmy.ml

    • lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.todayEnglish
      44·
      2 days ago

      this person probably should not be a mod of this community, or any community really

      That’s not possible, because it’s their own community and they’re the only poster in it. When this person inevitably gets banned and their community wiped, they’ll just register at another instance and make their own community there and continue. I don’t think that’s worth paying attention too - such behaviour just fundamentally cannot be eliminated without getting rid of the fediverse’s freedom.

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        5·
        1 day ago

        Then they’ll get banned from there too, or they’ll get banned on all the big platforms and be effectively making their community irrelevant for everyone not on their instance. The thing is there are a finite number of instances and almost all of them have strict rules against this crap. If you start your own like people suggest, you still have to follow their rules or else they stop federating with you, taking the majority of the userbase with them.

      • TheSlad@sh.itjust.works
        6·
        10 hours ago

        Good riddance!

        Edit: in case you missed it and was curious what it was… it was about 6 or 7 posts all from that same guy over the span of about a year, all of which were long winded rants complaining about “ageism” and concluding that the age of consent should be lowered to 14.

    • Telorand@reddthat.com
      34·
      2 days ago

      Consider reporting it to the admins of the instance.

      I’ve done that same thing with a similar sort of instance, and mods banned the community and the moderator from their instance.

      Reporting works.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
      261·
      2 days ago

      Community is called “thoughts”.

      Only one poster visigoth_860 who is also the mod.

      Am I allowed to pee in the popcorn? because I got some thoughts.

    • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
      8·
      2 days ago

      I looked at some of the posts. One had an admin commenting on it, so I don’t think they care.

  • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    48·
    2 days ago

    Sex with minors? With an age gap bigger than like 2 years, no. But close in age is fine, like 17 and 18.

    20 year olds want 15 year olds

    Uh…

    Matt Gaetz

    Oh. Oh no.

    • spireghost@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      9 hours ago

      It’s amazing how easily he stretched a 20 year to 15 year age gap to Matt Gaetz, who is like 40 years old.

    • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
      31·
      17 hours ago

      Yeah I can tell you right now, as someone who has been a 20 year old man, they absolutely do not want to be with 15 year olds unless something is very wrong with them.

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
    553·
    2 days ago

    The post was deleted, but I was able to access it exploiting the fact that the deletion didn’t federate with another instance. Should I repost it here? Serious question, it’s yucky but without the content of the post it’s really hard to say something about it.

    EDIT: archive link to the post. Discretion is advised.

    Anyway. I’ll focus on the claims made by the user, instead of assuming if he is or isn’t a paedophile.

    What people like that mod, or Richard Stallman, don’t get, is:

    • consent is impaired if one person has power over another
    • the age gap gives you power

    Beyond that all that talk about desire is a big red herring because attraction is shit inside your head, what matters is what you do.

    I won’t comment about remocrats vs. depublicans because I don’t care about USA internal politics.

    • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
      6·
      17 hours ago

      Dude the mental gymnastics this guy tries to put you through to try and justify trying to make leftists okay with him wanting to fuck 15 year olds is insane. And you can tell he thinks he’s WAY smarter than he actually is.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        3·
        16 hours ago

        Yup. The whole thing is a fallacious slop: fallacy of the beard, straw man, begging the question, so goes on. And as a result, he’s defending something that is morally insane.

        Those two are not the same:

        • a 20yo has sex with a 17yo; no payment is involved
        • a 42yo has sex with a 17yo; the 17yo is an escort

        and yet he’s trying to make both look like the same.

        • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
          4·
          16 hours ago

          He’s also trying to posit the idea that the left is losing elections because they won’t embrace pedophilia and that is alienating male voters. Which is an insane take.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        9·
        2 days ago

        Yeah. His opinions about software freedom are fairly solid, but when it comes to children and sexuality, he’d do everyone a favour if he simply shut up.

        In his defence, though, I don’t think that he’s a paedophile; I think that he’s just trying to extend his views about individual freedom into sexuality, but he’s too socially clueless to get it right. And then the whole thing blew out of proportion because of both witch hunters and people exploiting it for political opposition.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        19·
        2 days ago

        I’ve archived it. I think that it’s important for transparency.

        Sadly I couldn’t find the content of the comments of the two banned users. That modlog calling everyone “troll” strongly hints PTB, though.

        • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
          10·
          2 days ago

          I’ve archived it. I think that it’s important for transparency.

          I appreciate that. On Reddit, it can be difficult to follow the breadcrumbs as stuff just gets nuked and we have to blindly trust OP.

  • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
    604·
    2 days ago

    Age gap sex isn’t harmful

    Uhh OK mayyybe?

    Chris Hansen damaged society

    HELLO FBI? THIS GUY RIGHT HERE.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      722·
      2 days ago

      Chris Hansen damaged society

      There’s a sincere argument that turning “Pedo Hunting” into a consumer spectacle has done nothing to deter the act of child sex trafficking and exploitation, but been fantastic for the NextDoor community of busybodies and concern-trolls. The #MeToo movement has flatlined. I don’t see any real efforts to provide financial aid or social assistance to kids targeted for sex work. But lots of local news sites seem obsessed with elevating allegations of sex between kids to the front pages.

      Reminds me of the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, wherein 12,000 unsubstantiated cases of Satanic ritual abuse were reported and investigated by prosecutors leaning into the national media trend and looking to make headlines. Right now, we’ve got a flood of Trans-Panic and Gay-Panic news articles that try and conflate kids going through hormone therapy with psycho-leftist parents doing mass grooming.

      Doesn’t look like this guy gives a shit about LGBTQ civil rights. But those that do are chronically aware of how simply being queer can get you tossed in the same category as creeps and predators.

      • BradleyUffner@lemmy.worldEnglish
        38·
        2 days ago

        I also remember hearing somewhere that the show tainted so many cases with bad practices and horrible evidence gathering techniques that they couldn’t get convictions once the proper authorities were involved.

      • esa@discuss.tchncs.de
        13·
        2 days ago

        Yeah, there have been some cases of “pedo hunters” here; turned out to be a flimsy cover story for violent nazis.

        It’s, uh, not a topic suited for thoughtless entertainment.

      • Ricky Rigatoni@lemm.ee
        9·
        2 days ago

        Social media dorks keep trying to emulate hansen but keep “accidentally” getting the wrong person. And when they do get the right person all it does is warn them they got got and it’s time to skedaddle before the actual cops show up.

  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    40·
    2 days ago

    Holy shit this person seriously is a fucked up individual.

    Does lemmy.cafe have any infrastructure for removing dangerous people from their instances?

  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    332·
    2 days ago

    Yah that post is gross. I’d remove it.

    There’s your reason why.

    The pedo holds the reins.

    Block the community, block the user, move on.

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      4·
      2 days ago

      Should probably report this stuff to their instance admins. That way it disappears completely, that’s a better solution than pretending things don’t exist, especially when it comes to shit like this where the person is a pedophile.

      I’d also suggest letting your local instance admins know about it since once they know they can ban the user with content removal which will wipe out he community on those instances as well.

  • araneae@beehaw.org
    17·
    2 days ago

    Republicans, by boldly overlooking large quantities of sexual misconduct committed by many of their most prominent members, show horny 20 year old male voters that it’s ok. The GOP understands and tolerates them.

    Rape culture? On MY Lemmy?

  • Gerudo@lemm.ee
    14·
    2 days ago

    Gross. I’ve been on here since the reddit exodus. Found my first user to block.

    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.devOP
      18·
      2 days ago

      The part that really squicked me out was combining the drinking with the underage. Like they need to impair a naive person’s judgement even more to have a chance. No way this guy has any game.