Brits who complain about (American) biscuits and gravy have clearly never had (American) biscuits and gravy
Usually, you’ll find they’ll start making fun of you before you can even explain what it is
I love watching videos online of Brits trying food from the southern US because they always recoil at the sight of it before saying it’s one of the best things they’ve ever tasted.
Those guys are notorious for pandering to their American audience to be fair.
I think I saw the exact video you’re referencing here 😂
it’s pretty good if you can get over the fact it’s not biscuits or gravy.
They ain’t putting brown sauce on shortbread. more like white sauce on savoury scones.
I don’t get the petulant attitude about basic word differences. Different food and linguistic traditions exist in different places. Absolutely bonkers, right?
Early British settlers in the United States brought with them a simple, easy style of cooking, most often based on ground wheat and warmed with gravy. Most were not wealthy men and women, and so it was a source of cheap nutrition.
A very similar practice was also popular once with the Royal Navy as hard, flour-based biscuits would keep for long journeys at sea but would also become so difficult to chew that they had to be softened up. These were first introduced in 1588 to the rations of ships and found their way into the New World by the 1700s at the latest.
The biscuit emerged as a distinct food type in the early 19th century, before the American Civil War. Cooks created a cheaply produced addition for their meals that required no yeast, which was expensive and difficult to store. With no leavening agents except the bitter-tasting pearlash available, beaten biscuits were laboriously beaten and folded to incorporate air into the dough which expanded when heated in the oven causing the biscuit to rise. In eating, the advantage of the biscuit over a slice of bread was that it was harder, and hence kept its shape when wiping up gravy in the popular combination biscuits and gravy.
American biscuits and gravy are direct descendants of British biscuits and gravy. And American biscuits are not scones
With how commonly American biscuits are compared to scones, im curious what British scones are like, because the scones I’m familiar with have a very different texture from American biscuits.
They’re often flakey like biscuits, but that’s pretty much where the similarities end. I also think of scones more as desserts than used for something savory.
Sir please don’t ever bring your hate speech to Atlanta if you value your safety
Or it is biscuits and gravy, and the people who think that phrase means brown sauce on cookies are wrong.
Are you even allowed to type ain’t? Won’t they come take your internet license?
It’s scones covered in a white sauce built on sausage meat roux. Nothing wrong with it, but not much right with it either, it’s just calories.
Not scones, American biscuits. They’re different. Flaky, buttery, not sweet. And if there’s “not much right with it” then you had a crappy gravy without enough grease and pepper.
Probably! I was drawing a comparison for other readers, they’re closer to a shortcrust pastry in how they’re made. Savoury scones are a thing, by the way - usually made with a bit of cheese.
Lmao you can tell someone is American when they say “if it didn’t taste good you just need more grease”
Fat is flavor.
It’s really about the sausage, which releases fat (grease). You don’t add grease directly.
I have had them at a pretty famous bbq place in Texas, they are tasteless and dry and the gravy is a sin that even the most watery Bisto outclassed spectacularly.
This should be a 3-way with Canadians putting gravy on fries.
Haven’t tried gravy on pudding but I’m sure it’s as great as the other two.
This should be a 3-way with Canadians
I strongly agree
You know the Brits do that too.
And if you fancy a moment of horror,look up what a Wigan Kebab is.
Tell me you’re a poutine virgin w/o saying it…
I wasn’t being sarcastic. I like both poutine and biscuits and gravy, and I’m pretty sure gravy on pudding is good too. They all sound off-putting if you don’t know what they are, though.
All good, man. Just bad online jokes on Xmas. All the best!
It doesn’t work with the joke though: Americans use the word “pudding” to refer to something sweet while Brits use the word “biscuit” to refer to something sweet. Fries aren’t sweet in either of the two opposing dialects. So both should be able to see the appeal
While most of our biscuits are sweet nowadays, they’re not exclusively so and plenty of savoury examples exist.
The word came from the old French “bescuit” which was about the process of drying things out so they would keep longer, like on ships for example.
Chips and gravy is amazing. So are chips and curry sauce.
Yorkshire pudding is not pudding, it’s crockery.
It’s hard to go wrong with gravy. But I’m Canadian, we don’t use whatever you guys call biscuits. We use French fries and cheese.
Yes and we Canadians like browned gravy from roasts. White sausage gravy isn’t really a thing here.
I cannot believe there is such a thing as white gravy. It sounds like it looks like jizz.
Just look up biscuits and gravy on YouTube. It’s a regional dish from the southern US.
Add some Mexican pork sausage to that poutine and I’m in.
Bro you can add whatever you want to poutine and it will be good. It’s damn near impossible to ruin that dish.
I think I’ve seen chorizo poutine as an option the one time I visited Canada, in Niagara falls I believe it was. But I only had time to try the classic, and also I can’t remember if it was Mexican style chorizo or Spanish style chorizo or something else
I got hooked on poutine after my first visit to Canada, made my own for weeks afterwards. 10/10 no notes
I’m not a fan of the white gravy that goes over biscuits, but I’m on totally board with the gravy that goes with your fries. I will admit to some initial skepticism.
Wait… wtf is white gravy?
It’s a bilious looking concoction made from a sausage base. It’s made from cooked breakfast sausage, butter, flour, and milk. MILK.
I guess one could compare it to a bechamel if one were feeling generous.
https://selfproclaimedfoodie.com/country-sausage-gravy/
Red-eye gravy is another aberrant gravy from the US south. Never tried it, but I’m sure there’s some reason it exists.
What could possibly be offensive about putting gravy on a fairly dry bread product? Wtf?
The only Brits that would whine about that are softy southerners.
Come up North if you like your gravy. Up here it’s strong and thick enough that the spoon stands straight up!
Mmm, that’s how I make my sausage gravy. Got made fun of by an Appalachian guy for it being like concrete but hey, why not if you’ve got the meat, right?
Oh lad, if you like your meats and gravy, you should come to the UK and visit Manchester, Liverpool, or York.
Also everyone in the UK over hypes Greggs just because it’s such a national institution now but never mention the more tasty Pieminister because it’s not as widespread.
Let me know if you’re ever around the Peak District and you’re more than welcome to join our family for a proper Sunday Roast Dinner with THICC gravy.
Now make one with Canadians putting gravy on fries and Danes putting gravy on burgers.
Hawaiian also put gravy on burgers over rice and it’s a treasure
What does it look like?
Look up loco moco, it’s just so wonderful
Is that a bunch of steaming sauce right on the thing used to hold the sandwich or am I mistaking that?
Is there a bun on that? If not it’s just a Salisbury steak which I assume is the Japanese influence creeping in. Never quite understood why they like hamburger steak so much. I always associate it with frozen dinners.
I like Salisbury steak but loco moco def feels different to eat. Hamburger steak usually isn’t served with gravy in my experience thus far but Hong Kong has amazing steak with black pepper gravy.
Ketchup is just tomato gravy anyway. A sauce made by thickening a reduction of something high in glutamate with cornstarch. It’s more of a gravy than chip beef gravy, which is a more basic roux. Only difference is fat content, but that’s why it’s paired with mayo.
Personally I think of ketchup more like a puréed tomato chutney or relish, it’s the style I’d do if I made my own.
Corn is a fruit, whiskey is ketchup.
I’d say that’s a fruit preserve in that case, so a jam.
I absolutely will not tolerate gravy fry hate and I’m not even Canadian.
So when you say “pudding”, you mean white pudding or black pudding?
The core joke here is that Yorkshire pudding is unsweetened, just as American biscuits are unsweetened
Tapioca pudding.
Yorkshire
You don’t have biscuits or gravy though.
I agree, they don’t have biscuits they have cookies.
The English word “Sherbert” and the bangla word “Sharbat” derive from a common linguistic ancestor from before the indo-european split. One word refers to flavored ice, and another refers to a cold, sweet drink.
Odds are, neither one is the same as the original proto-indo-european refreshment that they derived from. When a people goes to a new place, they take their tastes with them and apply them to what’s available to them there.
Words, too, change meaning over time. It’s just the way things go. Nothing stays the same. Cultures drift, and people evolve.
What I call a biscuit may be closer to what you call a scone, and white gravy may be an abomination to your eyes, but it is just as cherished to me as Yorkshire pudding and brown gravy likely is to you.
And hell, y’all’s empire fell to pieces long ago. The time is coming where y’all’re gonna have to start engaging with cultures other than y’all’s own as equals instead of with that insufferable smug sense of superiority for once. Best start practicing now
I’m having a laugh mate. Why do so many of you take so much so seriously?
One word refers to flavored ice, and another refers to a cold, sweet drink.
Neither of those are Sherbert
Once again absolutely nothing intelligent was uttered by a person who says “y’all”
Let me be absolutely clear.
Y’ALL classist assholes can go fuck y’all’s selves. Ain’t nobody has no right to decide what words mean what, no matter how many dictionary companies y’all buy out. Language has no fecking rules. None. It’s completely artificial and it evolves over time, but y’all motherfuckers can’t be fecked to learn an ounce of linguistics.
Go right to hell, dipshit.
And hell, y’all’s empire fell to pieces long ago. The time is coming where y’all’re gonna have to start engaging with cultures other than y’all’s own as equals instead of with that insufferable smug sense of superiority for once. Best start practicing now
I wouldn’t say America’s ‘empire’ has fallen to pieces just yet but the rest of your comment is good advice for Americans.
Oh, the other Americans are gonna have to face the music eventually too. I just never had any issue with foreign cultures to begin with. I was the kind of kid who was on web forums in the early aughts saying “don’t judge the guy for his grammar, he might not be a native speaker, you don’t know that”. And that was before I learned of the concept of a dialect. So I’m just overall tired of dealing with this sort of childish “my culture good their culture bad” thinking that nobody seems to have grown out of.
But, you know, I have a very special beef with englishmen, because every time I was like “oh hey have you heard of biscuits and gravy” they’d be like “no wonder Americans are so fat” immediately, without second thought, and refuse to listen to the clarification about what a biscuit is (this was before I knew a British scone was basically an American biscuit but richer and sweet).
And, I mean, it’s all superficial and silly until you remember what happens when someone dares to fiddle with European food and make it their own. Masala Chai, Vietnamese Banh Mi, Philipino Spaghetti, all these innovations were met with by violence from the colonizers. Couldn’t let people just enjoy their own things.
But it’s gonna be different this time. When America’s empire falls, there will be no western power to take its place. The era of global western hegemony is finally coming to an end.
They love engaging with the French and copying their food and language to seem sophisticated.
We aren’t a hive mind mate.
Yeah but you are in here “having a laugh” by invalidating another culture’s experience. Turnabout is fair play.
I’m sorry if it came across that way, I should have put an “/s”, but let’s not forget you put a blatant lie about my country.
Italian Americans putting gravy on pasta: 👉🕷️
Americans putting it all in jello.
Yeah if you had a time machine to the 70s maybe.
Isn’t gravy that thick brown sauce you eat with turkey? If that’s the case both belong in a mental institution.
That’s one kind. The kind Americans put on biscuits is white and very thick. It is a mixture of sausage grease, flour, milk, and shitloads of black pepper.
Texturally, they’re a nightmare but the flavor is excellent.
very thick If you can afford it. In the old days lean years meant thin gravy
Texturally, they’re a nightmare
I’ll forgive you just this once. It may take some getting used to but it has no equal
