Or they’ll blame you for roping them into this exploitative shitshow with a side of climate apocalypse, and they’ll be correct.

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    I say stop having kids to wholly avert the undeserved and nonconsensual suffering that is inherent to a sentient life and suffering across sentient lives should be minimized

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    What if the reason I got sterilized is that I don’t want to deal with raising them, knowing full well the burden would fall to me and I can’t even manage to keep myself fed most of the time (effort, not availability) and it just works in everyone’s favor?

    I can feed my cats twice a day and clean their boxes once, and they manage themselves otherwise if that’s all I have the energy for. That’s called neglect with children.

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    Not having kids cuz I’m not especially fond of the idea of throwing the poor little shits into the dumpsterfire we’ve made our world. That and I don’t want to pitch my offspring as ammo into a breeding war against the Nazis/cultists/idiots. They can have it.

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      I don’t trust humanity with my offspring. Especially not the people who demand more people in this world. They have to be sadists.

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    I just don’t want anyone new to come to this atrocious world.

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    The likes of musk are breeding like crazy though, arguing against a “population collapse”. But idk if the rest of the little musks would be willing to fill in the white collar jobs that made daddy rich in the first place.

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    Oh, just fuck right off. If you don’t want children, just don’t have children and shut up about it instead of making yourself feel superior by making it a moral thing. And if you’re actually just concerned about them ending up in the meat grinder of exploitation, get organized to rid the world of the capitalists and save all the children from that fate. Stop whining about how terrible the world is and start making it better.

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    its like i found my people. while also against pro-creating, i’m pro-abortion too. if we could cause extinction, we could be heroes.

    God, would then be forced to create a world worth living in. unless we stop him from doing this to us, we will be forced to return.

    All this has happened before, and all this will happen again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again…

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    I hate this so much as a leftist talking point. If the working class has no more kids all that happens is that we slowly phase out the peasants for the inevitable shift to fully automated labor, without even attempting revolution.

    Just total submission to our neofeudal masters, allowing them to effectively kill us when we are no longer needed. Like cattle.

    Have kids, if only so you have proper motivation to fight for a better tomorrow instead of this defeatist crap

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      If you need your own offspring to have motivation to fix things you are definitely in it for bad reasons. I mean if you want to raise the next generation of human cattle, the machine always needs more.

      Automation would be great, actually, if we shifted society to one where your ability to survive wasn’t tied to your ability to generate profit for the wealthy, and made the whole of society based on renewable resources.

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    Oh yeah, the world will be so much better off when only the stupidest people are having kids.

    Although if you take your advice from a meme, I suppose nothing of value would be lost.

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        That’s the problem isn’t it? You parasites who think they owe the world nothing and can just take whenever they want without giving back.

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          It seems like you’re saying that the only way to give back to society is by having children. So people who don’t want kids or who can’t have kids are parasites?

          Sounds like a white supremacist talking point to me.

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          Nobody asked us if we consented to existing but just like with pit bulls, the solution is to stop breeding, not to kill them off. I owe nobody anything and I’m actually being very kind not to demand wha this owed to me by my parents since I do understand they didn’t know any better.

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        Sure, but chances are low that uneducated people are going to great lengths to make sure their children are well educated.

        One of the most horrifying things I’ve encountered in my career as a teacher was a father who insisted that his incredibly bright high school senior not accept a college scholarship because, and I quote: “I didn’t go to college, and you’re not better than me.”

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          It’s usually the opposite, as long as the uneducated parent isn’t financially successful. If they are then your anecdote does tend to happen, and is generally a good thing in the US and other despotic hell holes as making money is far more important than education.

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            My non-educated family all insisted that I go to college. As of now, I am the only one of my grandparents’ descendents who has a university degree. And that includes the generation after mine (my cousins’ children).

            My experience as a teacher has given me a glimpse into other people’s lives that shows me how very fortunate I was to have a supportive family.

            You don’t have to believe my anecdotal evidence, but my time working with low-income students has shown me that a surprising number of parents are absolutely dead-set against higher education for their kids. It doesn’t make sense, but a lot of things in the US don’t make sense right now.

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      at least they won’t be mine and I won’t have wasted my life raising them. They can go ahead and ruin it all for themselves.