Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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    Oh hey we got all the way to Pacific time without anyone wishing a generic Merry Christmas. May your family’s Wi-Fi work for everyone with minimal support required.

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      never heard of them before. from skimming their wikipedia, it seems their grift is glossing over the details in the “science” part?

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        From what I heard: Skimming over science, best practices, risks of contamination, risk of producing horror chemicals, problems of sourcing materials, storing materials, storing the final product etc etc.

        Here is a bsky thread from the last time they were in the publics eye (more here if you dont have an account)

        This should be a very big red flag: “Mixæl Swan Laufer worked in mathematics and high energy physics until he decided to use his background in science to tackle problems of global health and human rights.” (Ignoring all the other smaller red flags btw, I think I could point one out ever paragraph, if I had not heard about these people before, the final red pill reference would have made me think they were trolling).

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          interesting read, thanks. the red pill reference also had me rolling my eyes. i guess it’s more virtue signalling than actually making a change.

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            It is a bit weird, it has very high EA vibes to me, started and did some good (epipen in 2017 vs EAs malaria nets), but end up to have some crazy plan for which the other things are more of a smokescreen for their real plans (an easy bake chemical oven make chems at home kit vs EAs stopping our lord and saviour the robotgod) using rethoric aimed at a specific subgroup (2000-2010 anarchist libertarian hackers vs nerdy altruists)

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    so openai claims to be doing great on the FrontierMath dataset. I’ve already seen the usual sort of dipshits using this to pump ai on reddit, and here’s a post that went to the frontpage on HN:

    https://xenaproject.wordpress.com/2024/12/22/can-ai-do-maths-yet-thoughts-from-a-mathematician/

    (tl;dr only a few problems from the dataset are public but if representative the problems are about 25% survivable by an undergrad; coincidentally this is the % openai says their models are completing.)

    this post is by kevin buzzard. he has a let’s say not easily beloved personality, but I don’t think of him as credulous or grifty, and people in his area regard him as an excellent mathematician.

    he points out but I think does not focus enough on how discrediting the secretive nature of the dataset is. the fact that you can’t make it public is necessary to run such experiments in a scientifically reasonable way, but also makes it totally impossible to run the experiment in a scientifically reasonable way. an experiment which cannot be examined or reproduced is actually the opposite of science. it’s pure grift fuel

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    the identity-devouring worldcoin sphere ordered to delete user data by a german data protection office over gdpr noncompliance https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/12/19/german-watchdog-orders-sam-altmans-biometric-id-project-world-to-delete-data

    On Thursday, the German data protection authority, the Bavarian State Office for Data Protection Supervision (BayLDA), concluded a months-long investigation into World and stated that its identification procedure “entails a number of fundamental data protection risks for a large number of data subjects” that does not comply with the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

    “With today’s decision, we are enforcing European fundamental rights standards in favour of data subjects in a technologically demanding and legally highly complex case,” said BayLDA president Michael Will.

    is it? it’s another fucking crypto scam

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    I want to say I appreciate when there’s a link to the previous one, as after a week it’s nice to see what substacks were posted since.

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      I swear to god there was a video I watched about this years ago that already talked about how they don’t give you the best coupons and that they hijack affiliate links. I couldn’t have made that up in my head.

      The most surprising thing to me was that they’re owned by PayPal? How can you have any credibility left when you’re owned by PayPal, wtf, that should’ve been the end of them. Oh, no shit, a service owned by PAYPAL is shady and not above-board?? No way man, those paragons of user centrism, PAY-fucking-PAL.

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      When I was young I knew people who installed those ‘get money for moving your mouse’ things (this was a thing around 2000, prob combined with a ‘get paid to use your computer’ scam. I’m not sure if anybody even remembers this), and they never got a dime. So I always mentally ignore these things as scams. ‘it is just free money’ is quite the red flag.

      Minor gripe with the video ‘if they product is free you are likely the product’ isn’t true imho. You are always also the product, unless they explicitly go out of their way to make it clear you are not the product (and even then you cannot be totally sure). You can’t pay your way out of the rot economy. In fact, as you are now a person who spends money, I’d think the value of your data actually goes up. A database filled with data of users who never spend a dime online seems like it would be almost useless to me.

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      Wow, I’ve been saying for years that this extension is shady as fuck. Nice to see that it’s getting some attention.

      I didn’t expect it to steal affiliate cookies, but that they let you control which codes it “finds” isn’t even a secret, and I thought people know this. But every time I mentioned this on Reddit I was downvoted and called a liar.

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      As someone who’s never even considered interacting with any part of this whole system, this is really funny honestly. It’s like a matryoshka of shady business practices.

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      Making money via stealing commissions from affiliate links, tbf, wasn’t the business model I was suspecting from Honey. I always thought they were scamming but I thought it was going to be from selling your browsing data or something similar. Then again, they still might do that.

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      Holy shit. Managed to never run into them due to sponsorblock but the ways mega corps find ways to extract money out of everyone never ceases to amaze

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        I remember when the Dark Reader addon was advertising them years ago, they were doing their shit for a pretty long time