I’ve looked at a few lists here and there, but it seems like there just aren’t many co-ops that recruit strangers online. Anyone have any experience working for a co-op as a dev? It seems like it would be an awesome way to structure a small web/app dev team. Part of me wants to try to start one myself, but it’s hard to imagine maintaining the motivation needed for a task like that when I can barely function as it is.

Anyway, what’s up with the lack of cooperatives? Sorry if this is the wrong comm, seemed like the best place

  • AtmosphericRiversCuomo [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Yea, I would recommend against doing this in the US. It’s uncommon, which makes it harder, more expensive, and legally challenging, etc. It also paints a target on your back if conditions deteriorate.

    Just form an LLC and make it a co-op via an operating agreement. The government doesn’t need to know why you pay people the amounts that you do or how you arrive at decisions. Keep it like a black box that looks like every other business from the outside.

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      What kind of target do you see getting painted by being in a coop? What scenario? What consequences?

      They are like the most ineffective form of rebellion ever. I didn’t get into arguing with OP about the concept. But they are pretty famous for de-radicalizing themselves over the years and becoming as nasty as any other business. The legal structure incentivizes it and few if any can resist.

      • For one thing, imagine police responding to an incident at a known leftist coop vs just a regular old pillar of the community main street shop. How are they going to act? Or imagine how much more sway your voice has at city council meeting as a successful small business. Business owners are practically part of the capitalist priesthood, so you’re negating one of the biggest advantages for not a lot of gain. There are lots of other reasons, for example I think a day will come when we can use legitimate looking businesses to help people immigrate to countries that are better suited to withstand climate change, ostensibly for the purposes of labour.

        A big reason why they degrade and de-radicalize imo is that they’re often started and operated by (trying not to be sectarian) consensus obsessed folks. While consensus is great, a more democratic centralist approach is probably best for the sake of efficiency. Basically coops are efficient because they’re horizontally organized and don’t need a heavy management layer, but then that’s negated by having to hash out every single decision ad nauseam.