This is about the fact that indigenous people make up a disproportionate amount of the military population
But when talking to people in general, how do you open dialogue with not just indigenous, but also black and Latino/Chicano veterans and younger people trying to join? A lot of people are lured in by poverty, others are looking for discipline or they have strict families who try to force/impose it.
Is there any advice on having these conversations? I believe it’s important to be respectful and mature about it, to not go on lecturing and complaining.
Can you please recommend any good videos or media that accurately critiques it from a relatively apolitical perspective? Just mainly in terms of how much it sucks for the typical person or how the military can fuck people over?
OH! I haven’t watched it yet, but this is on my list and might be worth checking out.
Sir! No, Sir!
Do you know where to find the full documentary?
Looks like there’s a torrent here.
https://1337x.to/torrent/3704221/Sir-No-Sir-The-Suppressed-Story-of-the-GI-Movement-to-End-the-War-in-Vietnam/
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I’ll think on it, I’m afraid I don’t have anything off the top of my head. I don’t tend to watch that sort of stuff anymore. There’s that joke about how America will send their people to kill and ten years later make movies about how it made them sad and that’s totally true. Basically about a decade after every major “conflict” there will be movies where the main character has had their life ruined by being in the military, it’s just a question of whether they blame the military or the person.
Hmmm, idk if anyone else remembers, but shortly following Occupy Wall Street there was a veteran that went viral giving a really good speech (outside? in a parking lot? at a protest?) about why people shouldn’t join. I think he might’ve been in Cindy Sheehan’s circle? There’s also always plenty of news stories out there about Veterans being screwed over for medical care, Student loans, etc.
This tends to hit pretty hard.
https://np.reddit.com/r/television/comments/2hrntm/last_week_tonight_with_john_oliver_drones_hbo/ckvmq7m/?context=3
I don’t think there’s anything more unifying for veterans than shit talking the VA, honestly. Great intentions, awful execution.
That aside, I don’t have the time to check rn, but is that speech from the guy from that one documentary “National Bird”?
Also, dark humor from a bygone era:
I believe this is the speech you’re thinking of. Which is pretty good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1eRiM9Bh6I
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Looking at the trailer, I don’t think so. I wanna say it was a Desert Storm vet?
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I don’t have the link but there was a video on here a while ago of someone asking different soldiers something like “what would you say to your recruiter if you saw them again?” and all of them are reply “why did you lie to me” or “burn in hell” etc
Ah, yeah. Not 100% Fuck You’s, but a lot.
https://www.tiktok.com/@brycepond5/video/6880901448872234245?lang=en
I think this was the guy but he must have made more of these as I don’t think this was the one
Lol, we can’t win!
not trying to be ungrateful, I just mean I can remember seeing another one that was much more decidedly anti-military that would be more fit for purpose of showing a potential recruit
Lol, no worries, It wasn’t taken that way at all!
Have you ever seen that one movie “National Bird”? Far from apolitical, unfortunately. It’s about some wistleblowers, documentary style. I believe at least one was under surverillance or had an issue with the FBI. I believe this is how I found out you can’t discuss certain “national security” details even in therapy, and that you can be placed in a mental hospital if needed for OPSEC/NatSec reasons - but I could be wrong, that might be a different movie/documentary