• Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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      22 days ago

      No. I am not. I am being quite literal and sincere, but you can’t seem to wrap your head around that.

      We are (literally) abolitionists. You are (barely metaphorically) a slave owner. We don’t want your insincere validation. We don’t want your disingenuous expressions of respect. We want you to stop treating individuals as property.

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          21 days ago

          Veganism is often seen by outsiders as “a diet” or “a personal choice”. It is unwelcome to have such things projected over us when we see veganism as a moral philosophy and ethical practice that we undertake for the good of vulnerable individuals, not our own interests. When someone who exploits animals performatively expresses “respect” for what we are doing, it is typically a coping mechanism that they are using to deal with the moral judgement that they feel when exposed to veganism and vegans. No one wants to feel morally inferior, and these expressions of respect serve to allow the animal abuser to feel that they are in some way morally aligned or friendly to veganism. But they are not, and it feels really bad as a vegan to have someone trying to use us as a prop to manipulate their own conscience in a way that allows them to continue abusing animals without thought or concern.

          I appreciate your engagement and trying to understand the disconnect. I’m not being glib or mean when I say we don’t want your respect and validation. It is something you need to understand if you want to keep engaging in vegan spaces without being unwelcome.

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        22 days ago

        Are you talking about me? What’s hypocritical about respecting vegans? Are you asking me to disrespect them instead?

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            22 days ago

            I respect vegans like I respect the LGBTQ community. I don’t need to be gay to do that do I?

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                  22 days ago

                  So you first start throwing insults when called out then resort to using a strawman and now you’re just promising to be a jerk showing that you have no principles in the first place when exposed to cognitive dissonance. You just want to waste lives, land and water for your selfish 15 seconds of pleasure.

                  Of course you fight so hard to remain an animal abuser instead of using that energy to solve real problems.

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                    22 days ago

                    Dude, I was simply trying to be nice. You keep telling that I was wrong and hypocritical. That my ignorance makes me a bad person. I don’t understand you guys.