• Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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    15 days ago

    Conservative / fascist leaders deserve it, the rest of us do not. The kids who were too young to vote, the leftists who fight against fascism, and the workers who don’t have the time to follow politics do not deserve any of what is to come.

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      15 days ago

      Young voters voted for Trump. Tons of kids support him: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/young-men-voters-trump-2024-exit-polls

      Unionized workers had grassroots support for Trump: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/teamsters-endorsement-harris-trump-2024

      Staunch democrats sat out, or protest voted: https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2024/11/07/why-biden-outperformed-harris-throughout-metro-detroit

      Ignorantia juris non excusat. Ignorance of the law excuses not.

      America is objectively, measurably, ignorant, trapped in bubbles, and we collectively did little to lift each other out. We are going to face justice for it.

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        15 days ago

        Can’t wait to see all the sad Pikachu faces when he guts union protections and outlaws public sector unions altogether. “Can’t wait”

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          15 days ago

          “Why do liberals do this to us? This is a failure of the demonrat party, next time I’m voting for Trump harder, he promised to help us”

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            14 days ago

            Which is what happened in 2016 exactly.

            Lard ass promised to “make coal mining great again”.

            They got nothing, which was to be expected.

            Biden, as much as I find faults with him, actually did come through big for unions and the unions members, I’m sorry but they’re not the brightest here and we’re failed by their union leadership and by Democrats to get it through their thick skulls that Democrats actually did a shit ton for them and had their backs.

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              14 days ago

              “Yeah, but liberal Hollywood offended me with their wokeness”. Or, “Yeah, but the smartypants college grads talked down to me”

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      15 days ago

      You had me until that last group.

      If you opt out of participating, you deserve whatever happens without you.

      We’re in this mess arguably because of all the people who chose not to participate.

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        15 days ago

        The left cuts down their candidates and elected officials over any faults, while the right uplifts them regardless of any faults. Is it any surprise the Dems always look bad in comparison to an uninformed voter.

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          14 days ago

          The left has no candidates. The last time centrists didn’t get 100% of everything they wanted, they formed a PAC to try to get McCain elected, but they’ll certainly get mad at anyone who even considers expecting better.

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            13 days ago

            I guess the theory is if people sit it out, handing it to the Republicans, the Dems will get shocked into moving left in the future? Seems like a gamble to me. Wouldn’t it make more sense to do that during primary season?

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              13 days ago

              No. There is literally nothing that can happen and certainly nothing I can say that will get spoiled centrists to ever accept that in order to get voters to the polls, you might have to get only 98% of everything you want.

              You need to court voters. You consider such behavior beneath you.

              The party is willing to throw anyone but Netanyahu and Cheney under the bus and has no fucking clue at all why people stay home.

              Second worst isn’t sufficient to win. Blaming the voters because you don’t want to be better won’t change that.

              And primary season?! What primary season? Democrats haven’t had a primary without a preordained winner since 2008. We didn’t even have primaries this year. And the last time centrists didn’t get their very first choice in the primaries, they formed a PAC to get McCain elected. Don’t preach about primaries when they’re a sham and you always get what you want out of them.