• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    I don’t know. I voted for Kamala, but I think Trump might actually be better long-term for the Palestinians than Kamala.

    Yes, Trump would happily watch as Israel bulldozed and annexed the entirety of Gaza and the West Bank. But Israel’s ability to do that isn’t contingent on US military aid. What really prevents that is broader global public opinion. If Israel tries a full and rapid ethnic cleansing, it will be completely embargoed by every nation in Europe.

    There is a reason Israel has been doing a slow-mo “genocide by zoning code” in the West Bank for years. They know they can’t get away with overt genocide, not without facing mass trade embargoes.

    The truth is, I really don’t know if things can realistically get bad enough in Palestine for the Kamala/Trump distinction to be any different. Even in the case of an overt genocide, Kamala would simply withdraw some offensive aid. Trump would keep that aid flowing, but in either case, if Israel decided to do a full overt genocide of the Palestinians, neither a Trump nor Harris administration would meaningfully intervene.

    The only long-term hope for any improvement for US policy on Israel is if Democrat leaders listen to their base and stop supporting them. Kamala was going to be fully pro-Israel. And with Kamala as an incumbent, no anti-Zionist candidate would have been able to run in 2028. Now with Kamala out of the picture, and with her seeming loss due to her and Biden’s addiction to fellating Israel, there is room politically for anti-genocide voices to actually have a chance at a major party’s nomination.

    I would say the chances of an anti-genocide president being in office in 2029 are about 10-20%. With a Harris win, that chance would be 0%.

    • MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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      17 days ago

      The people who didn’t vote for Kamala, whether they stayed home or voted for Trump, they don’t fucking care. They don’t care if every Palestinian dies. In fact, if killing Palestinians lowered gas prices, they would probably pull the trigger themselves. And they’d do the same thing to Israel.

      Whomever runs next will not give a flying fuck about Palestinians. They might pay lip service, but that’s all you get.