Hear hear…

I’m in the UK and we have the same situation + monarchy, for added funsies. I keep thinking people are getting enough of a glimpse behind the curtain at the fact that the system wasn’t designed to serve them, but to centralise power in the hands of very few people who exploit the rest to continuously strengthen their own power, but part of those efforts are the propaganda, and it just goes to show how well it works that despite so much ugly truth being revealed over and over, some people still see “my team vs your team” as the only way to exist. It’s both sad and very scary.

The 2-parties in this monopolized system are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich. Everything is by their design. We never had a choice.

The system will never work for us, because it’s working as intended. We need to annihilate it and start from scratch. There is no fixing it from the inside and hoping the next person isn’t just another lesser evil to vote for.

Exactly. I’m sure they are…

I more meant it as “a general strike wouldn’t work”

Just a warning, and I’m hoping we never get to this point, but you’re wrong. The issue isn’t that the technology doesn’t work. The issue is the more people in the loop the easier it is to infiltrate. If you’re organizing to do crime, communicate as little of it as possible, even if it’s encrypted. The encryption only protects the message from being seen by outsiders and doesn’t prevent an insider from being a spy.

It’s just a joke about how people “don’t have any guns” because they lost them. Not stolen because they would have to report that. They’re somewhere unreachable that you technically COULD verify, but likely wouldn’t unless there’s a very specific (usually requiring a warrant to get people to move) reason.

So “boating accident” is to goto joke accident. Nobody would actually believe you if you said that to a cop, judge, or courtroom.

So your solution is to starve those already struggling, instead of support them and together taking the fight directly to the employer, or even better, to the political establishment?

That’s a really gross and privileged take. Do the people in your vicinity a favour and don’t eat out, they don’t deserve to have to wait on someone who would rather see them starve before offering any support or even solidarity.

E: I’ve got it now - yours is the liberal version of pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

My bad I felt personally attacked ✊ less personal now.

Edit: sick song.

this is how we ended Jim Crow

Yeah, and got whatever shit still remains today, including systemic white supremacy and slavery.

As for the imaginary line between “protest”, “freedom fighting”, and “terrorism”, it is one your oppressor has defined to make sure people like you turn your backs on those actually brave enough to take on them and their system in the only meaningful way there is to oppose it. Maybe consider thinking more critically about the world and who defines its rules for you.

So while we’re bringing up grandparents - I’m going to take my lead from some of my own, who were armed partisans in the Polish forests, and armed fighters in a ghetto rebellion, shooting Nazis because they knew it is the only way to defeat them. (E: and if you’re only ok with people fighting back once they’re in the cage, you have chosen the side of those doing the caging)

Enjoy your sit in, those of us directly in the firing line don’t have time to learn our lessons from the white washed history those who want to suppress us teach.

E: oh, and while we’re here, and since you brought up Jim Crow, maybe consider the words of MLK, and where you fit in on the demanding order over justice scale:

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

Yeah, a lot of the leadership wouldn’t follow that order is what I was implying. The grunts would then have to decide who’s orders are valid and figure out what side they’re on.

If Trump uses the military on citizens, I’m reasonably confident that’s the start of US Civil War II.