Internal data from the ABC show the harmful content moderators are exposed to weekly, sometimes even daily. But the organisation’s response is one many others can learn from.
I detest moderators, I do not trust them, I do not want them skewing my reality, get out GET OUT, I don’t want your help, I don’t want you, I don’t like you I rather wade through a terabyte of spam and cheese pizza than tolerate you silently altering my worldview one more fucking time.
It’s literally crazy to say something like this on Lemmy of all places.
Don’t like moderators? Fine, try to host your own instance and your own communities. You’ll find quickly that it turns to shit because it’s actually pretty hard to do well.
I miss when signal-to-noise ratio was common parlance of the Internet.
Making usable spaces is tough work, but having worthwhile content drowned in an ocean of noise is seemingly the default of corporate controlled media anymore, so much have they abandoned paying attention to what they publish. That you don’t know who is editorializing and moderating the places you frequent and have opinions on the job they’re doing says to me that you’re not doing the work that being media literate requires, which is all the more important when so much of it is generated content with no consideration given to reality.
I somewhat agree, but I do think there needs to be some form of moderation.
I’m interested in individual-directed moderation, where you can pick your own moderators and have your feed be altered based on how people you trust have moderated content. My issue with moderators isn’t moderation itself, but with biases that I disagree with. If I could swap the moderators of my favorite communities, I think I would have a better overall experience.
Yup, that’s my dream too. I’ve started working on something like that, but it’s far from production quality. I hope someone beats me to it, because I haven’t been making near enough progress.
Unfortunately unless you are a tiny niche community that isn’t ever targeted by spam or idiots (and how common is that really), moderators are a necessary evil. You probably don’t hate moderators. You probably hate bad/aggressive/biased/etc moderators. Or maybe sometimes you are the problem, I don’t know. It is not a problem with an easy solution. Usually large forums with no moderation become quickly unbearable to most people. And then moderators become in turn unbearable to some people.
Maybe a trusted AI can do a better job at this - like give it the community rules and ask it to enforce them objectively, transparently, and dispassionately, unless a certain number of participants complain, in which case it can reverse its decision and learn from that.
I must always have the last word on my local filtering. The raw feed must be available to all.
Filtering and discovery algorithm, offline, on device, private, transparent and easily auditable.
All Moderators Are Bad, That’s the null hypothesis.
They do not get the benefit of the doubt, it was always laughable to think they wouldn’t immediately abuse their position to shape and manipulate the public with their power while constantly acting like the victims.
No more !
This power should never have been allowed to hide in the shadows and concentrate in so few unaccountable individuals.
I detest moderators, I do not trust them, I do not want them skewing my reality, get out GET OUT, I don’t want your help, I don’t want you, I don’t like you I rather wade through a terabyte of spam and cheese pizza than tolerate you silently altering my worldview one more fucking time.
It’s literally crazy to say something like this on Lemmy of all places.
Don’t like moderators? Fine, try to host your own instance and your own communities. You’ll find quickly that it turns to shit because it’s actually pretty hard to do well.
Don’t care, hard disagree, I rather complete chaos than a boot on my throat.
I can handle chaos just fine.
It’s my decision, moderation should only ever be an optional subscription service rather than a jackbooted imposition.
Then go to 4chan or some other lawless place, what are you doing here?
I miss when signal-to-noise ratio was common parlance of the Internet.
Making usable spaces is tough work, but having worthwhile content drowned in an ocean of noise is seemingly the default of corporate controlled media anymore, so much have they abandoned paying attention to what they publish. That you don’t know who is editorializing and moderating the places you frequent and have opinions on the job they’re doing says to me that you’re not doing the work that being media literate requires, which is all the more important when so much of it is generated content with no consideration given to reality.
Give me noise all day long, I can’t pull signal that got squelched out.
Moderation must be a subscription.
Raw feed or die.
I somewhat agree, but I do think there needs to be some form of moderation.
I’m interested in individual-directed moderation, where you can pick your own moderators and have your feed be altered based on how people you trust have moderated content. My issue with moderators isn’t moderation itself, but with biases that I disagree with. If I could swap the moderators of my favorite communities, I think I would have a better overall experience.
Yes, moderation filtering as a subscription service.
Crowd sourced moderation.
Raw feed always available on my device, I get the last word at all time on my moderation filters and content discovery algorithm,
offline, on device and nobody else ever knows what my choices are.
That’s the absolute bare minimum that I would find tolerable.
Yup, that’s my dream too. I’ve started working on something like that, but it’s far from production quality. I hope someone beats me to it, because I haven’t been making near enough progress.
Unfortunately unless you are a tiny niche community that isn’t ever targeted by spam or idiots (and how common is that really), moderators are a necessary evil. You probably don’t hate moderators. You probably hate bad/aggressive/biased/etc moderators. Or maybe sometimes you are the problem, I don’t know. It is not a problem with an easy solution. Usually large forums with no moderation become quickly unbearable to most people. And then moderators become in turn unbearable to some people.
Maybe a trusted AI can do a better job at this - like give it the community rules and ask it to enforce them objectively, transparently, and dispassionately, unless a certain number of participants complain, in which case it can reverse its decision and learn from that.
I must always have the last word on my local filtering. The raw feed must be available to all.
Filtering and discovery algorithm, offline, on device, private, transparent and easily auditable.
All Moderators Are Bad, That’s the null hypothesis.
They do not get the benefit of the doubt, it was always laughable to think they wouldn’t immediately abuse their position to shape and manipulate the public with their power while constantly acting like the victims.
No more !
This power should never have been allowed to hide in the shadows and concentrate in so few unaccountable individuals.
The jannies make me sick !