• Makeitstop@lemmy.world
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    30 days ago

    Aside from the fact that they are listening to propaganda, it’s also a matter of framing. They think of solar as green weenie shit, the ineffectual limp dick replacement for tried and true all American machine power.

    It all starts sounding different when you frame it as a security issue. Large scale solar will keep working through almost anything, even if parts of it are damaged. Most other forms of power need constant maintenance and can suffer catastrophic failure that renders the whole thing inoperable and costing a fortune to replace.

    More importantly, it adds flexibility since it can be rapidly deployed and remains effective at smaller scales. The military wants solar because the alternative is often a gas generator that needs fuel shipped in by truck, a common target for attack. If your house has a solar roof and battery backup, a blackout isn’t going to effect you. Power can be out for weeks and you’ll barely notice, while previously the only option was a gas generator that only powers a few circuits in your house and is inevitably going to run out of fuel.

    The more widespread solar and battery gets, the more secure we are as a civilization against large scale catastrophes that disrupt the grid, whether that’s war, sabotage or natural disasters.

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      That’s a great way of putting it.

      We’ve had fewer power outages at our new offgrid house (0) than we had living anywhere else

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      29 days ago

      the ineffectual limp dick replacement for tried and true all American machine power.

      the fossil lobby has done a fantastic job of deceiving people about the superiority renewables bring to the generation problem. the fact that they still roll out bullshit like “you won’t be able to watch TV at night” tells you everything.

      Meanwhile, in REALITY, the US has installed record amounts of renewables and battery storage.

      https://www.utilitydive.com/news/us-battery-energy-storage-deployments-jump/729248/

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        The real tragedy here is that the educational standards have been allowed to drop so far that “can’t watch TV at night” is a legitimate issue with solar to some people.

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          While you’re not wrong in the educational standards, I think a lot of this, in 2024, is obvious, no shit sherlock ‘revelations’, and the FUD should be combatted on every front - eliminating foreign oil influence, superior quality of life all over, rebuilding the grid, doing FUCKING ANYTHING about realistically reacting to climate change etc…

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            In 2024 USA, there is no such thing as,

            no shit sherlock ‘revelations’

            There is no common sense anymore.

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      28 days ago

      I’m fucking tired of treating these idiots with kid gloves. They have no curiosity and refuse to understand how it works? Good luck fixing that.

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      28 days ago

      Oh the subject, EVs… Now you have a mobile energy bank that you can take with you and store/use that energy in emergencies.

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      Don’t forget that big turbines can provide inertia into the power network, allowing large power spikes to occur without forcing equipment offline, that can be solved with hydro, flywheel batteries, windmills etc

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        Don’t forget that big batteries can react in fractions of a second to large power demand spikes or dips, stabilising the grid far better than spinning steel can