• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    As you said, you can defeat the US regardless of who wins, but if Harris wins Palestinians will have more options to take refuge.

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      20 days ago

      Palestinians aren’t being given asylum right now. Trump just said the quiet part out loud.e

      And honestly, I’m pessimistic about us being able to resist Harris. We certainly failed to resist Biden. It can certainly be done, but there’s a gulf of difference between “we can do it” and “we will do it.” That’s why I also pointed out that if Trump wins the liberals will join us instead of just sitting around at home to wait for the next election.

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        20 days ago

        So you won’t even lift a finger to take a chance of saving Palestinians. You’ll just sit on your couch and let them die.

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          20 days ago

          I won’t lift a finger to vote for genocide. You can twist yourself into ideological knots to convince yourself that voting for genocide will save Palestinians, but I see the truth. The only chance Palestinians have is if the US and Israel are defeated.

          Which president is more likely to lose against the Axis of Resistance?

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            20 days ago

            Neither is going to lose. People are too comfortable. They have too much to lose to join a fight like that. Its delusional to think otherwise.

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              19 days ago

              The largest protest movement in US history happened under Trump. People aren’t that comfortable, all it takes is another crisis, and you yourself probably believe Trump is going to make a lot of people very uncomfortable.

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                  18 days ago

                  They burned a police station down. That’s not something people do when they’re too comfortable.

                  It was a revolutionary moment, there just wasn’t an organized political force or party to take control of the situation and push forward an agenda. It was merely more of the same leaderless horizonalism that characterized the 2010s. That shit doesn’t work, but that doesn’t mean nothing else was possible. We won’t have a revolution just because people are uncomfortable. It requires organizing, which is what we should be doing right now and immediately after Trump steals the election.

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                    17 days ago

                    They were uncomfortable because of Covid. That’s not likely to happen again soon. They were the most widespread protests this country has had since Vietnam (at least) and they accomplished nothing. The government has those kinds of protests figured out and can crush them or make them irrelevant. Nothing is going to change until people are willing to risk their own lives.