• HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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    4 hours ago

    I don’t view him as a true believer in environmentalism. Only a few are like that in washington but he does understand global warming is happening and we have a need to curb it and that pollution is bad. He does not think global warming is a hoax and moves forward incentives for clean energy while disencentivizing fossil fuels even its just to delay things already in motion. Again I agree its not enough but its leagues better than doing than doing the opposite.

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      4 hours ago

      How are we ever supposed to reach a point where we have someone who does do enough if we keep unconditionally supporting the lesser evil?

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        3 hours ago

        How are we ever supposed to reach a point where we have someone who does do enough if we keep unconditionally supporting the greater evil?

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          3 hours ago

          Who said anything about supporting the greater evil? You can conditionally support the lesser evil, dependent on them changing policies to what needs to happen, or build up a party that’s actually good until they’re strong enough to either win or extract concessions in exchange for support.

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            28 minutes ago

            when it comes down to it there was a push to do like you say when reagan won and when bush won and when trump won. They are just getting worse and have to be made inconsiquential so that we can make greater gains on the left. we can’t go left by having the right win.