• A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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      Leftists criticizing Democrats? My friend that is a tradition old as time, Russians barely have to bother with left wing spaces

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        the most bang for the russian buck is going after moderates. martin luther king jr already defined moderates as people with “shallow understanding” and he was proven right since a bunch warnings against tankies or maga strawmen is all it took to get them to accept genocide.

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        Is criticizing Kamala Harris for such genocide/things she has done and supported in the past good/correct? Yes.

        However, this close to the election trying to raise anti-kamala sentiment is also bad, and I get more general anti-kamala vibes than measures criticism. Russian bots also kinda tend to post such things to try and get people/leftists to vote against her which is why you were accused of such.

        I assume you will call me a lib and too focused on electoral shit, but the thing is that Kamala is universally better on everything than trump, even on things like Israel/Palestine. She may still be bad on a lot of things, but is still a lot better than trump.

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            I mean, I guess, but the choice is blazing support for genocide and still support but slightly less with a somewhat better chance of support for a ceasefire or wherever. It’s a fucking shit choice, but imo there is still a correct one.

            I also think being anti-electoral is problematic, idk how much of that y’all are but that’s a different conversation. I’m probably gonna make a post on c/actualsocialism soonish to try and understand the positions of mods/active users of this community and that one (as I understand it they are sister communities), what is meant by democratic socialism not being allowed (I used to call myself one but don’t currently, mostly just cuz such labels are more confusing than helpful imo), and how y’all would define my current positions and how they differ from the broader ones of the communities.

            (You don’t need to respond to those questions here though as I don’t wanna clog up this post with discussion of them)

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      Truly a “the worst person you know just made a great point” kinda situation.

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        I mean, I’m the first to say both sides are awful, institutionalized, feudal lords and have never in my life championed, represented, or even supported the political beliefs of anyone I know, but the fact of the matter is this isn’t obama/McCain. This isn’t vote red for policy A or vote blue for also policy A. This is vote blue for policy B or vote red for the gulag.