• Psychodelic@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Do y’all talk to people day-to-day?

    I hear a lot of anti immigrant rhetoric from my immigrant aunts and my more “trashy” or low-class friends (all kids of immigrants)

    I’ve been saying this for more than a decade now, before bots became such a huge thing (I think), if YouTube comments are any reflection of the average person/American, we’re so beyond fucked. I absolutely do not practice cynicism

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      5 hours ago

      Yep. I think there’s a huge amount of left leaning online people in denial.

      They keep thinking that they just need to tell people about all these issues and then obviously those people will see it as wrong. Nope, a huge number of their fellow citizens are absolutely aware of this shit and actively approve of it.

      Bringing ‘awareness’ is pointless if the people actually approve of this horrible stuff.

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        3 hours ago

        To be clear, I don’t think most of these folks fully understand the consequences of supporting fascist politicians. My imm. aunt startled me a bit yesterday when said something like democracy means gay people everywhere. I said that’s not true and “reminded” her democracy is a system of gov where citizens can vote, one where women weren’t previously able to participate in, nor black citizens.

        Still, where does that leave us? No fuckin joke, we basically need to stop trying to use facts to reach certain folks. My understanding is that means we need to use emotions/emotional intelligence. How do we do that? Not sure. Many of us had to numb the fuck out to survive what we call American culture, so we’re really just barely learning

        How do we now make Americans that kinda hate our guts, because of tons of propaganda, that we care about them and want to work with them to improve our nation? Most libs kinda do come off like they hate them, tbf

        Idk if that made sense. Kinda stuck rn

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          35 minutes ago

          Agreed on the emotional intelligence approach. I’m tired of democrats thinking logic and facts will just sway everyone and then being all high and mighty when that doesn’t work on some people.

          The whole thing with Trump being weird was an excellent attempt at actually messaging in a way that resonates with people. There’s a reason ads for stuff like cars and medicine focus more on happy experiences and not on what the product actually is.

          We need to be building a brand identity, shaping how people feel about us and focusing less on the raw facts and logic. It doesn’t work on seemingly most Americans, continuing to use it despite the lack of results really makes me question whether we really are controlled opposition.