we danced in the street all day when he lost last time, and we’ll probably do it again this time
Don’t care. Just vote.
Already did!
yes. next question.
all of these polling aggregation sites regardless of the quality of the the poll will include the data in their forecasts. how many poison pills do you have to put in the water supply before the entire thing is poisoned?
these operatives figured out well before the eggheads who refuse to question or change their methods that by flooding the zone with shit polls, they not only generate buzz for the results of the poll but they are poll by poll changing the reality that the lazy, access political media will breathlessly SCREAM IN ABSOLUTE TERROR that trump is gaining on harris. these junk polls are simply a method of simultaneous voter suppression and boosting on a race probably only really close in 3 states.
I know some of the aggregators put adjustments on right leaning pollsters. They’ve publicly talked about doing it. And it’s not hard to see outliers when you look at all the polls released.
Easier to claim election interference when he loses by a lot, but the polls should the race really close, it’s all a setup for his loss
I hope they are, it’d be really nice if Trump dramatically underperformed the current polling.
I’d probably crack open a bottle of champagne, even.
Yes, they absolutely are. It’s coup 2, electric boogaloo. Foreign actors are also rigging the betting markets. They are creating another narrative they can use to justify stealing the election.
If so that’s pretty disastrous for Trump. A lot of people are worried about a 2016 repeat, Trump vastly outperforming the polls, so now a whole lot of people who usually just vote are donating and door knocking. Polls that are favorable for Trump just mobilize Harris supporters
Every outcome since 2016 has been in favor of Democrats. More so since 2022. I’m not worried at all.
When Trump gives his inauguration speech he’s going to thank you because it was your jinx that put him over the line.
I’m not worried at all.
Why you gotta put that out into the universe?
Because I’ve looked at the actual voting trends over the past 4 years and not polls. Everyone in the media is fearing polls. Polls are no longer useful. The only people answering poll calls are elderly.
Harris has this on lock for the vote. Whatever Trump and his asshats have planned otherwise is a different story. I do still expect the Biden camp has an entire playbook at the ready since SCOTUS said president can basically do whatever they want. Waiting to see it.
I’m a little worried… My pants are dry, but I’m still a little worried.
You should be, because there’s more than a 0% chance it happens, and when it does, it’s likely the end of America as we know it.
Not enough people know that it really would be the end.
I fully believe that, but I also know the polls have been absolutely useless since 2016, and P2025 and Rowe are such massive issues, I expect the actual exit polls to be heavily in favor of Democrats.
I don’t think the polls are rigged.
I think they are straight up lying about the results.
Ya get more clicks if it’s soooo close! Or make the headline vague to create uncertainty and anxiety. Clicks equals money.
Headline: “Poll says: One candidate is now losing in Pennsylvania!”
“The keepers of the averages insist that the impact is very minimal. Outfits like FiveThirtyEight; Split Ticket, the Times’ in-house polling tracker; and Nate Silver’s forecast all take methodological steps ostensibly to ensure that “garbage-in” polls don’t lead to “garbage-out” results. These include downgrading the “weight” of polls thought to be systematically biased so they have less influence on the averages than high-quality polls do. (FiveThirtyEight has detailed criteria for determining whether pollsters are high quality, including empirical accuracy and methodological transparency.) Another step is adjusting for a particular pollster’s “house effects” to downplay biases.”
This has always been the thing that has me concerned. They may have fucked polls, but the aggregation methods have weights to shit pollsters so even if they did give shit polls, the overall result is still “accurate” (Kamala not doing well)
Another thing mentioned, I didn’t actually consider, but is super fucked up:
They’re trying to divert Democratic funding away from states by making them appear like a lost cause through shitty polling. Talk about absolute fucking scumbags…
The last thing mentioned is also infuriating in that Magoos will see a tight race that shows Trump slightly ahead, but if he loses they use that as evidence it was stolen!? So what the fuck happened with Hillarys 95% chance to win then!? Was that stolen? Oh sorry, silly me thinking similar logic should be used in similar situations… It’s just whatever fits your narrative that is the only real valid thing, of course of course… Ffs…
Or maybe its Maybelline…
I would be very surprised if they were not.