• Hegar@fedia.io
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    6 hours ago

    I don’t think he’s doubling down. Just officially taking back his comments with a bunch of meaningless apology waffle that makes it clear this is not a change of heart, only a change in his official position.

    I’m glad that he felt he had to officially change his position, but I think it’s incorrect to frame this as “he thought about it and came around”.

    Your quote is just as clear about that as mine. They both have the official position stated clearly: “I said that the ‘extreme left’ has suppressed the art of comedy… It’s not true.”, "I don’t think, as I said, the ‘extreme left’ has done anything to inhibit the art of comedy.

    But the remaining apology waffle makes no sense:

    You can’t say certain words about groups. So what? The accuracy of your observation has to be 100 times finer than that just to be a comedian” What does it mean that comedians have to be 100 times more accurate than a racial slur? “things that I use to say that [I can’t because] people are always moving [the gate]? Yes, but that’s the biggest and easiest target” Target for what? By whom? This sentence still implies that he wants to make the jokes that he used to but can’t anymore.

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      6 hours ago

      I mean, it’s not rocket science. He says he has material he used to do that aged poorly and concedes that’s part of the job. I think the point about how comedians need to make observations far finer than just racist jokes generalizing about groups of people is well taken, honestly. “If you’re good at this moving on with the times shouldn’t be a challenge” is not a particularly controversial statement for a comedian. It’s not even a waffle. He’s conceding the point in its entirety.

      Again, why are progressives so reticent to take a win? If anything his old take is vindicated by him walking this aaaaall the way back and finding that people would rather be mad at him than have him agree with them.

      I don’t think leftists killed comedy, or even edgy comedy, but I do think that online interaction has a stronger reward structure for outrage than understanding and that is fundamentally dysfunctional.

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        5 hours ago

        I think you’re meeting him well more than half way in your interpretation. He didn’t condemn making racist jokes, he just acknowledged that people don’t like them anymore. That’s just not “he thought about it and came around”.

        You don’t make the gate, you’re out of the game. The game is where is the gate and how do I make the gate to get down the hill.”

        He’s explicitly looking at this as a necessity of his profession, not a change of heart.