malicious hexbears are taking advantage of people’s trauma to turn them against the west folks (and judging by the recent survey, turning them trans too? 
)
https://lemmy.world/comment/12777548 link cuz im not a lib
the comment in the screeshot is responding to @blakeus12@hexbear.net’s wholesome introduction post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3631051
I made a TLDR here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5484512
I started as alt-right
yeah goat, we could tell
“Started” implies that one has moved lmao
For me, it was gamergate
damn goat, never saw that coming
There’s a special kind of pathetic liberal that already comes with a pre-scratched mask.
With that kind of self-report and the strange consistency of alt-right anticom energy, I’m half-convinced Goat is just Steve Bannon posting from a prison cellie. They let Suge Knight have a podcast; I can’t imagine what kind of perks Bannon must be getting rn.
@goat@lemmy.ml it really is suspicious that you are so dedicated. In my experience, libs don’t care that much about communists. Libs don’t spend more than a year trying to make a communist forum look bad, and they certainly don’t deliberately distort the truth to do so—like you implying we’re anti-vax, or claiming lemmygrad hates trans people as if nutomic speaks for them, when you’ve been here long enough to know better. Libs don’t knowingly lie like that, they don’t think they need to. Libs live in a media bubble, they’re confident they can express every aspect of their mainstream, socially acceptable, vetted perspective in public and it will surely withstand criticism from some communists on a fringe forum. In my experience, the ones who lie and distort are the alt-right. The dedication, the dishonesty, it really gives me a strange vibe, goat.
Also I get a casually transphobic vibe from goat, like when they said that people who get offended over being misgendered are “obsessing” and need to “go outside”.
Edit: further more you have them saying shit like this:
Not just denying the gender identity of a bunch of this site’s users but also rehashing queerphobic “groomer” accusations.
The sidebar pic showing Xi Jinping as a yellow bear is strange too. I know the meme started in China, but surely goat realizes that most people on lemmy have no idea where that meme came from? Lemmy users are going to log on and see a predominantly white forum portraying Xi Jinping as a yellow bear for some reason. Context matters, doesn’t it? In China, there’s no risk the image will seem racist, but can you imagine posting that image on sh.itjust.works? Fuck. Not something I would ever do. Wasn’t there even a thread pointing this out to goat a long time ago, and yet the image is still there?
Wasn’t there even a thread pointing this out to goat a long time ago, and yet the image is still there?
It was actually a different Xi/Winnie the Pooh picture, this one is even more
'cos of the squinty eyes he’s been given.Wow, fuck. So the guy definitely knows how it comes off. You’d think a liberal would react differently when informed.
Scratch a liberal, etc., etc.
The remaining users were the worst of the worst
to all the terrible postersOnly the REAL posters remain
we coming lemmies
Hell yea
This user’s post is so wrong.
- First accusation is that it’s more radical and mean than CTH was. I don’t agree, CTH was fucking nuts at times. They’re presenting it like it was a socdem space and this has gone way further left than it but you’re talking about the subreddit that was banned for saying slavers should be killed and that spez is a slaver lmao. The sub practically went out of its way to be edgy and get banned. Moderation here is way tamer and less crazy.
- Second accusation is that the site “dwindled” from any users to few. This ain’t true either, hexbear is more active now than it has been.
- There was never any divide over Russia-Ukraine. This user is literally making it up. There’s definitely never been cheering over killing of civilians, you lying neoliberal fuckhead. Treating war like a football game? Projection.
- “I went to therapy and it saved me” lmao libs literally always resort to “go to therapy” for fucking everything. Biggest giveaway this is a neoliberal larping.
- “Now I look back on my several years as a hexbear user” you’re absolutely full of shit mate.
This is a neoliberal that’s skimmed the place a few times. Nothing more.
I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.
Literally nobody in the left WANTS murder. We’re just not naive enough to think that the transition of power will ever be allowed to be peaceful. We’d love that, frankly, but every time that’s been tried it has resulted in millions of communists being murdered without any means to defend themselves. The means to defend ourselves are necessary and we expect violence to be necessary because the ruling class will not allow a peaceful transition. That’s NOT being pleased with the idea of murder at all. It’s just understanding that peaceful revolution is not really allowed for what we want.
I dont think you’re wrong but the idea that they used to be on hexbear for fucking years and didnt know there was a public modlog is so funny i need it to be true lmao
Yeah kinda basic mistake right there. Especially with the frequent posts about modlog entries.
I wonder if any of this is chatgpt… Are we in chatgpt’s training data yet?
How is murder childish? It is one of the more adult things out there.
Also the main thing that prob hurts hexbear’s userbase is the defederation. I explicitly use lemmy.ml because I get to post here AND the few .world Comms that aren’t dogshit
self-aware?
haters will say it’s unfairly cropped
When someone tells you who they are, believe 'em ig
Was it alt-right or communism for you?
I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.
So they started with embracing hate, then embraced communist aesthetics (presumably to be edgy while not understanding the communist analysis), and then finally, they decided that the status quo where murder happens conveniently mostly out of sight of the imperial cores and everything stays the same is best, because all those people resisting the empire are upset for (some reason)?
…the OP called murder childish? i literally did not read any of the surrounding comments this person made in the thread that is basically as dumb as the entire paragraph of bullshit spewed out preceding it
There’s also the title of the thread calling the hexbear “racist”, which I can’t find even the distorted lib version of from reading the post.
my best guess from reading through blakeus12’s original thread is that he calls himself an amerikkkan and maybe goat, top mind of sh.itjust.works that they are, saw the kkk and thought it was racist somehow? i dont know only other thing i could think is that it’s racist against rural white people to say you’re from dumbfuck no where? normally id just say it’s because someone used the word cracker but it’s not even said by any of the top level comments in the screenshot so i’m grasping at straws here.
I’m from bum fuck no where and I’m proud. The only reason that would be racist is if you internalize the general classism libs will have towards you and then make it part of a white grievance identity. Ie: make shit up
Theres the first red flag. This person is basically just an NPC with no real leanings that latches onto whatever appeals to them on an aesthetic levell off the internet.
basically just an NPC
Honestly I hate this framing, it’s used a lot by the fascists to dehumanize people for not thinking exactly like them.
The user is just a fucking lib, and always has been.
Good point.
Your average NATO-leftist, folks. It’s like poetry. It rhymes.
lmao talk about full of shit vague-posting nonsense; “hexbear treats war like a football game” says the motherfuckers who’ve shouted “TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN” every day for the last three years straight, to say nothing of their support for the Palestinian genocide, as if I’d take moral lessons on war from these racist cockroaches
Also I love how the inciting thread is about Hexbears being nice to and complimenting a child for proficiently articulating their emotions and political journey, but I guess personal development would seem like horror to these reddit rejects
ur not even counting all the racism shown towards russians, calling them orcs and accusing random people that counter their narrative online as “vatniks”, I literally saw someone do it on a lemmy.ml thread earlier today.
also, did you mean “personal” instead of “personell”?
nothing personell, kid 
personell development is very important to any aspirating organization, that kid is gonna be a leader one day yessir
lmao talk about full of shit vague-posting nonsense; “hexbear treats war like a football game” says the motherfuckers who’ve shouted “TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN” every day for the last three years straight,
Don’t those assholes have a non-credible defense clone somewhere on sh.itsfulla.nazis, or am I thinking of another fed full of actual bloodmouths
- I love my trans comrades
- RIP bozo, enjoy your reindoctrination into capitalist realism via your brainwormed therapist, and do all young people a favor by never speaking in their presence again
RIP bozo, enjoy your reindoctrination into capitalist realism via your brainwormed therapist, and do all young people a favor by never speaking in their presence again>
Right? Like no one is telling you that you have to wreck your mental health by focusing all your energy into how fucked we are but dont live in delusion. Especially when younger people are going to face the consequences.
my face after looking at that instance
how tf does one person just post that much about an instance?
ah you mean meanwhileongrad the community not the instance it’s hosted on, i was like yeah but .world and shitjustworks shouldnt be new to you to cause this kind of reaction at first lol. anyways, lots and lots of brainworms comrade, lots and lots of brainworms. also known as
yeah my bad lol, I didnt know the difference between instances and communities
yeah i wished they used different names, i think “server” would probably make more sense than an instance although i suppose “community” isn’t too bad
Skill issue.
This site has been wholesome as fuck for me.
like I’ve said people I see complain about hexbear users being mean have a good chance of breaking
when i go look at the modlogYuuuup it do be that way
This response is fucking classic:
I’m an anarchist, tankies don’t like me because I like my freedom of speech and right to bear arms, not a kid tho
I’m an anarchist, tankies don’t like me because I like my freedom of speech and right to bear arms, not a kid tho
Yet another “no veggies at dinner, no bedtimes” type that thinks “DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” is a very big adult ideology.
Removed by mod
I can’t really comment as I’m an ML but do anarchists really believe in free speech maximalism generally…? also, i would bet “tankies” are much more likely to own guns than terminally online “anarchists” like this lol
Removed by mod
i actually might have to go make a post in c/anarchist asking about this that is almost incomprehensible to me.Removed by mod
i dont necessarily agree with the extent of that framing*, and do think the vast majority of anarchists desire less restriction on speech than most marxists (outside of like, libsoc types), but letting fucking nazis have marches is something I thought all but the most terminally online “i’d rather the US be the hegemon than china” anarchists would be strongly opposed against
*(i am of the camp that there is that fundamental difference between marxist and anarchist thought that cant be reconciled surrounding the indivdual vs society, but I dont think all anarchism necessarily follows it to the same degree)
As the one true anarchist, I think right-freaks should be allowed to march because I need to get out some aggression and work on my upper body strength.
hmm i think you can have one or the other, either you must support taking away the right to bear arms so you can beat them up or you must support oppressing them so they dont start shooting people
tankies don’t like me because I like my freedom of speech and right to bear arms
Freeze peach, surest sign of a cracker. Who told him we don’t like guns, though? Shit, I still clear Marksman to this day every time I hit the range; and that’s needing glasses at this point in the game.
I’M IN THE SCREENSHOT, NOW I’M OFFICIALLY A TANKIE WOOO
welcome to the club comrade, glad you could make it.
ayyy
me on c/bestoflemmy (.world):
so they complain about (presumably) /r/news posters treating war ‘like a football game’
yet they’re perfectly comfortable posting on .world as ‘one of the good ones’ after a year of
behavior from pretty much every lib on thereYeah this is an incredible self-report
I suspect this person is perhaps not being the most truthful and may have eaten a little ban they’re still mad about. if it’s not just some lib making shit up, of course.
Yeah this screams “important detail left out about their ban”
many such cases, normally it’s some lib who’s whining they got a comment removed and banned and you go look at the modlog and it lights up with
Seems like bernie liberal to “i just wanna grill” pipeline
There’s a very very fine line, maybe invisibly tiny, between “radicalizing people” and “sharing what you have slowly figured out without a guide by watching politics interact with the economy from 2006 on”.
i dont even know who they think hexbear is radicalizing at this point, we’re defederated from the biggest instance and for years werent even federated at all, and like I think the only advertising I know that gets done by hexbear users are our beautiful trans posters on !traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net so most people who make their way to this site are already radicalized to begin with. and if their problem is with this site being advertised that means they’re mad that our trans posters are trying to build up the trans community on lemmy which would be extremely transphobic tbh
As the OP demonstrates, our comrades on .world do a ton of advertising for us by complaining about us nonstop.
maybe instead of being manipulative group of people we’re all infected with a brain worm that either makes you like and enjoy the site or makes you obsessed with the site and makes you bad mouth it on other sites even when your critcisms dont make sense
I’m pretty sure @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml and @Erika3sis@hexbear.net were radicalized by hexbear after it federated with the wider lemmyverse.
Whether I was radicalized by Hexbear depends on where you draw the line of when someone has too many brainworms to be counted as properly radicalized, and on the extent to which the exorcism of those brainworms is attributable to Hexbear versus any number of other things.
Edit: rephrased, “too many or too few brainworms” makes it sound like you need to have a golden mean of brainworms to be a radical
yes i’m not saying no one has been radicalized by hexbear, more so that it’s not an explict goal of the site and most of the people that make their way here are normally already socialists of some stripe
Yeah hexbear should be more like the rest of the internet where russians, africans, chinese or anyone with a bit of melanin be subject to blood poison rhethoric and the suggestion of nuking undesirable countries are seen as a joke. And genocide is justified because “they were not angels”.
And genocide is justified because “they were not angels”.
Don’t forget projecting support of genocide onto anti-imperialists.
Ooooh that’s my favorite. The scary boogeyman anti imperialist
radicalizing the youth
The only proper ideology for youth is self-congratulatory atomized nihilistic selfishness, where identity is purchased on a subscription basis one consumer product and one Twitter account flair emoji at a time.
