cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/138601

“That son of a removed, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

  • Soup@lemmy.cafe
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    16 hours ago

    I never said it was good to support it (though I’m sure that won’t stop people from reporting me for being a genocide apologist). Only that it’s a very complicated and nuanced thing to just assume it should be easy to simply stop because we want it to.

    Nothing would make me happier than to see the issue resolved and for people to stop being hurt. But that’s not for me to decide. With a vote or otherwise.

    And that’s because it’s a very complicated agreement. Nations don’t just decide to break them. Regardless of your strong opinions on the matter.

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      16 hours ago

      Maybe stop sending them billions in weapons then, eh?

      I see at least three actions in that statement:

      1. Stop giving them billions in free weapons
      2. Stop giving them any weapons
      3. Stop them

      #1 should have happened a long time ago imo, if not used as a leverage to prevent an Israeli ground invasion of Rafah, the West Bank, Lebanon, striking enrichment at Natanz. “Free bombs for crimes against humanity” is a bad moral play, bad politics, and bad diplomacy outside the US:Israel sphere.

      #2 Is politically hard normally, impossible in an election cycle. I hate it, but here we are in the house we built. Make FEC the only campaign funds - it’s OUR government, not the highest bidder’s.

      #3 The US’s geopolitical track record shows that we’ll tolerate some awful, terrible people if they’ll get ‘on our side’ even if there’s a trend of massive and foreseeable blowback, the diplomatic corps don’t learn lessons.

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        15 hours ago

        And my point is:

        1. It’s more complicated than that
        2. It’s more complicated than that
        3. it’s more complicated than that.

        What I’m trying to say is that none of us are experts on the subject. And those that are suggest that, guess what?

        Yeah. It’s more complicated than that.

        And I chose to believe the experts on the matter. But when they’re ready to argue music theory, I’ll eat their lunch. 😀

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          22 minutes ago

          If the “experts” told you that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, would you believe them?

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            15 minutes ago

            So… those experts weren’t American. They were from the UK and Denmark.

            Try again bud.