The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.

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    2 months ago

    I admitted that Democrats are overall more sane than Republicans. As a Democrat, I have no problem saying that. What I loath though is the Democrat attack dogs that can’t handle anything negative or a third party candidate. They go spread propaganda and make up things without ang evidence.

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      As a Democrat

      I’m really going to struggle believing you with this considering your other comments, especially the “Hebrew School” bullshit.

      Democrat attack dogs

      LOL

      can’t handle anything negative

      There are plenty of negatives with the democrats. Literally none of them makes a Trump presidency an option worth seeing.

      a third party candidate.

      I’m going to correct you on this again. There are zero third party candidates which have any chance in this federal election. NONE*.

      They are spoiler candidates. Its what RFK was, its what the Green Party has done for three elections now. This is not a debatable point. The only time Jill Stein shows up is when there is a federal election. This is her purpose. This isn’t propaganda, this is her proven track record.

      You want third party? LOCAL ELECTIONS. Full stop, if there is no local, there is no federal. And there sure as hell isn’t a remote chance of a Presidential win.

      Do you know how many Green Party members are currently federal officials? None.

      NONE. Not a single one elected to any federal office.

      Do you know how many are at the state level? As of today, NONE.

      Less than 10 have ever been elected to a state position.

      Talking about third parties for a presidential election is pure unabashed bullshit, intended to spoil the election, and the only people they pull votes from is Democrats.

      So cut the crap.

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        I was attacked nonstop in my argument that there is no evidence to legitimately claim that Jill Stein is a Russian agent. This resulted in several attacks saying I work for Russia, that I’m paid to shill, that I work for the Chinese government, etc. In responding to these attacks I referenced Hebrew school because the same people had said I worked for a foreign nation, and Kamala has praised her loyalty to Netanyahu so I might as well make the same argument that they are Israeli propagandist that dislike Jill Stein since she like Bernie does not support the genocide in Palestine, unlike most Democrats.

        That doesn’t mean I don’t want Kamala to win. You can be a Democrat but still take issue with certain elements or issues in the Democratic party. You don’t have to be pro-censorship or attack anyone who isn’t your preferred candidate with lies. It is everyone’s right to run for President and you just seem so upset that someone else would run. It shouldn’t matter to you at all that Jill Stein is running. Why are you so bothered by it? Are you afraid Kamala just isn’t that likeable? That Kamala being pro-genocide might cause enough people to vote for Jill Stein that Kamala can’t win? If that is the case then be mad at Kamala and get her to change her stance on the issue. Candidates should be scared of losing when they are proud of supporting war criminals.

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              You mean when I asked you to show me these so called blue maga terrorist groups that are the equivalent of the well known right wing ones?

              Or where I call you on the blue maga bullshit in that comment?

              Because THAT IS THE COMMENT YOU THEN BROUGHT UP HEBREW SCHOOL TO.

              Cut your bullshit already.

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                Well first MAGA in itself isn’t a terrorist group, but Antifa is definitely an extremist left-leaning group as well. So I have gave you your answer and now you’re just lying trying to shift the narrative and move the goalposts.

                I said Democrats are not the same to MAGA and you took that and claimed you won the argument, but you can have the stupid argument award. You earned it.

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                  The groups I referenced are both right wing terrorists and maga. So too bad on that one.

                  Antifa is not an organization, those groups are.

                  I’m not shifting the goalposts, I’ve hit you back directly on every point as you meandered around trying to come up with nonsense to support the idiotic claim of “blue maga”, which doesn’t exist.

                  So you want to know what I think?

                  I think there is a strong possibility you are paid. Everything you’re repeating is stuff straight out of right wing talking points - including your antisemitism, which, BTW, is VERY different than antizionism. Hebrew is a language not an Israeli training pavilion, so yes, your comment was antisemitic AF.

                  So either you’re paid, or you are one very easily duped person.

                  I have facts, you have bullshit disproven narratives. To me this isn’t about “winning an argument” like it apparently is to you. Its about clear threats to people I care about who are members of the lgbtq community. This is about america not being destroyed by christian nationalist fascists. This is about my children.

                  And I’m not the kind of person who will sit idly by while someone uses propaganda bullshit to demoralize the only outcome where we can have a better future later.

                  So, dont try and pull your strawman crap out on me, I’m not having it.