• YeetPics@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    2 months ago

    Imagine feeling the urge to back either side of this thousand-year conflict and also screaming about your moral superiority in doing so.

    Stop supporting monsters.

    🤡

    • Altofaltception@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      Please provide references and evidence of conflict spanning back a thousand years. The conflict started after the Ottoman Empire collapsed and the region got divided up in a colonial experiment by the French and British.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 months ago

        believe it or not sometimes people do a little bit of hyperbole and exaggeration.

        I would never do that, not in a million years. It’s literally impossible.

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        Huh? The conflict is at least as old as 1834 (Ottoman empire fell in 1922) and they’ve been trading blows since well before that.

          • Madison420@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            Secretarian religious violence in Israel with proto Israeli terrorists involved. Notably the order issued to murder any Muslim found in Hebron. Many families were removed and would never return with proto Israeli Jews taking “abandoned” property and refusing to relinquish it to this day.

            It’s a very very old territorial and secretarian conflict, trying to imply it’s summer limited modern engagement lacks nuance and is at best myopic.

            • Altofaltception@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 months ago

              Palestine was a territory of the Ottoman Empire at the time. Israel did not exist.

              From what I can gather online there was a peasant revolt, but nothing sectarian about it. The Ottomans pillaged the villages during and after the revolt.

                • Altofaltception@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  2 months ago

                  The problem with this opinion is that it’s not based on fact: the Zionist movement originated in Europe as a result of pogroms there, not in the Middle East.

                  • Madison420@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    2 months ago

                    The problem with that opinion is it’s not hard based on fact, the families that fled often ended up in Europe. StillSome of which were later displaced again by pograms in Europe.

                    It’s literally in the history of Zionism written by avowed Zionists. You might as well argue with water about how wet it may or may not be.