I’ve driven cars with the supplemental safety stuff like auto braking, radar/lidar cruise, 360 cameras, lane departure features, etc. and I actually think they are great, maybe not for everyone and for every scenario but these can help and can reduce risks. This existing tech is like autocorrect since it can guide, alert and preempt the driver but not control per se, FSD feels like gen AI where it will drive through a truck or a median and accelerate wildly bc it cannot parse what it is seeing but it will confidently do something
Not all of it is great, Honda is currently being investigated by the NHTSA for it’s collision mitigation system being dangerous.
Personally ours tried to kill us by panic breaking in a gentle left hand corner, with no cars ahead of us, from 40-0 with a fully loaded semi behind us. This is a 2021 MY.
Turns out if you floor it, it will override that but I didn’t know, and also think that’s a fucking horrible way to have to respond to a car malfunctioning. Have had the dealer check it out, it’s working within their normal parameters.
I used to laugh at the dumb things it did, because I’m an idiot. It took nearly being killed to see those other events as frightening failures and not just quirks of a new technology.
Their offer to me on how to fix it… Just remember to turn it off every time.
Nah, don’t think so. My partner drives it once in a while but not enough to remember every time, and my kiddo would be getting this soon when they start driving but I don’t trust it enough to put them in it.
They also don’t expose can signals at the OBD2 port, hiding it behind a can gateway so I’m tapping a module behind my mirror to see if I can find a way to confuse it permanently so it stops trying to kill us, or just turn it off entirely.
I know it’s there to prevent lawsuits but why would i want full self diving if i have to pay attention to the road
I wish it was frame shift drive instead and every Tesla just launched into space
I’ve driven cars with the supplemental safety stuff like auto braking, radar/lidar cruise, 360 cameras, lane departure features, etc. and I actually think they are great, maybe not for everyone and for every scenario but these can help and can reduce risks. This existing tech is like autocorrect since it can guide, alert and preempt the driver but not control per se, FSD feels like gen AI where it will drive through a truck or a median and accelerate wildly bc it cannot parse what it is seeing but it will confidently do something
Not all of it is great, Honda is currently being investigated by the NHTSA for it’s collision mitigation system being dangerous.
Personally ours tried to kill us by panic breaking in a gentle left hand corner, with no cars ahead of us, from 40-0 with a fully loaded semi behind us. This is a 2021 MY.
Turns out if you floor it, it will override that but I didn’t know, and also think that’s a fucking horrible way to have to respond to a car malfunctioning. Have had the dealer check it out, it’s working within their normal parameters.
I used to laugh at the dumb things it did, because I’m an idiot. It took nearly being killed to see those other events as frightening failures and not just quirks of a new technology.
Their offer to me on how to fix it… Just remember to turn it off every time.
Nah, don’t think so. My partner drives it once in a while but not enough to remember every time, and my kiddo would be getting this soon when they start driving but I don’t trust it enough to put them in it.
They also don’t expose can signals at the OBD2 port, hiding it behind a can gateway so I’m tapping a module behind my mirror to see if I can find a way to confuse it permanently so it stops trying to kill us, or just turn it off entirely.
Edit to add NHTSA link : https://www.nhtsa.gov/?nhtsaId=EA24002
The point of it is liability, for the corporation. If the “autopilot” fucks up, the driver can be blamed.
It’s like how “self checkout” is really there to make shoppers into unwitting free labor.
“Umm sweetie the FSD didn’t fuck up it turbed off 0.1 seconds before the collision therefore it is the driver’s fault for not reacting”