24 y/o with a teaching job.
No real income is what she has. Probably on top of a shitton student debt.
Don’t forget how much money she spends on classroom supplies for her “not real kids”!
Apparently she doesn’t have a good parent either.
“no real bills” I’d believe…if the parent said she lived at home (no rent, and food provided), was on parents’ insurance (health, auto, etc.), had no student debt, and was walking distance to work.
But given that her parent didn’t, I’d guess that isn’t the case. Turns out rent, food, transportation, and like you said, student debt, are all…what’s the word…real bills?
To a lot of people “serious bills” means credit card debt for shit they didn’t need.
She’s also probably paying for school supplies.
'Murica!
By the description it sounds like she lives at home? Teachers start most places at $40k+ a year. If she doesn’t have any bills and she’s 24 and no longer wants to wear glasses or contacts, yeah. That’s on her.
*Edit: Some of you disagree with my remarks about most teachers starting at over $40k. So in a below comment I provided facts and sources. The “teachers start most places at $40k+” is spot on.
Where are teachers starting at $40,000? That was 10 year salary in most of the US not even 5 years ago. My brother, his wife, and one of my sisters all started at ≈$24,000 a year, and they still had to supply their classrooms with basic supplies. They all got into teaching at completely different points over the last 19 years. One in '05, one in '12, and the last in '16 and they all started at ≈$24,000 a year. This was in Indiana, Georgia, and Virginia.
Straight from the National Education Association website.. This is a .org pro teacher and pro education website that is actively trying to increase teacher pay.
The National average for NEW teachers is $44,530. 28 percent of districts that staff a total of 300,000 teachers start at below $40,000. However, 23 percent of districts start at over $50,000, and those districts staff a total of 1,300,000 teachers. So over four times more teachers start over $50k, compared to the under $40k crowd.
Furthermore, Montana and Missouri have the lowest average starting teacher salaries and they are still at $34,500 and $36,800. So even if you’re in the dead last worst off state in the country, you’re still average new teacher salary is about $35,000.
So your numbers you have are a far, far, cry from reality for all but the lowest paid teachers in the lowest paid areas and are like a decade back from today’s rates.
As a completely superficial note, my friend just got her first full time teaching job for grade school and is in the 2nd lowest paying state for new teachers in the country; Missouri. Her starting salary is $51,000.
So if you want to have any argument or discussion about my original statement for teacher salaries being incorrect, do as I have and back it up with facts and sources.
Thats because teachers have been fighting tooth and nail to get a proper salary and its still fucking awful.
Them and everyone else. Why unions are finally on the rise again. The idiots have stopped being brainwashed by the ultra wealthy telling them unions are bad.
My starting teacher salary in 2016 was $33K before taxes
And that was a long time and a lot of inflation ago.
And a lot of inflation means that, unless wages kept with it (they didn’t), this situation is exponentially worse.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have student debt. Or understand it at all.
“no real kids”
“no real bills”
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the fact that he added “real” to both means she has them but he somehow doesn’t consider them real, whatever the fuck that means. but this sounds like a total piece of shit and i feel sorry for the 24 year old.
nothing like ruining the economy and the future for the next generation and then refusing to help.
I think everyone is misunderstanding the “kids” part.
The daughter is a teacher, meaning she has “kids” (i.e. in her classroom), but not “real kids”, as in, kids of her own. A strange way of saying it, but I’m sure that’s what she meant.
The no real bills part… that could mean anything. If she’s living with her folks and doesn’t have to pay rent, utilities, etc., then I can understand how a request like that could be taken poorly by the mother.
Still, posting it on social media is Karen-like behaviour.
“Can you describe the nature of the unrealness of these bills, as its own thing and not as the absence of something else?”
Just thought the dissection of that particular “weasel word” might help someone out there at some point.
“Brandy made in Germany isn’t “real” cognac. The nature of the unrealness is that it was made in Germany and not the cognac region of France.”
You may disagree but my point here is, right or wrong, you can always describe the nature of the unrealness, unless its being used as a cheap, underhanded rhetorical device.
I’m guessing the kids comment was about pets. ‘No real bills’ I’m guessing she still lives at home and pays some token amount towards rent/utilities.
We can speculate all we like, but I could see this going either way, and I’d be frustrated if my 24 year old couldn’t support themselves too.
I mean she’s a teacher. A very hard job with lots of unpaid work that often offers downright sad wages.
Being unable to support oneself despite a full-time job is a more and more common thing in our world.
My cousin is a coparent in a polycule of 3, but she is not the biological parent of their children, she is the default parent though, as she is a SAHM and the other parents work. They’ve been together for 23 years.
Half my family acts like she doesn’t have any children, and that she’s some sad single live in nanny. They will ask her how her “room mates and their kids” are going, even if the “room mate” is standing next to her with his hand on her arse and has just finished telling a story about how in love they are.
My dad is also thinks I have “no real bills” because I don’t have a mortgage. He says rent isn’t a real bill because it’s not like the bank will take my house if I don’t pay. History opinion on evictions is “that not the same, because you can get a new place to rent that night, you can’t buy a new house in a day”
My rent is 6x more than his mortgage and I don’t know anyone who could get approved for a rental the same day they get evicted for not paying rent, but sure dad, I’m rolling in expendable income over here.
Some families are weird about denying how their relatives live.
But it could also be that she calls her cat “her baby” and lives at home with only personal bills.
i feel like if he’s frustrated about his kid and she only has pets he’d just say no kids. but people are weird with animals so who knows.
I’d expect ‘no real bills’ to include rent for their own apartment (because the parent doesn’t get how much it costs nowadays), but no car bills for example.
what does “no real kids” and “no real bills” mean?
Pets and “only” bills related to the daughter and her everyday life.
And I’d bet “real bills” are only bills that the parent deems worthy — mortgage, car payment, etc. I’m guessing teacher pays rent, utilities, pays for groceries…
Nah. Rent and utilities are definitely counted as real bills by everyone. She probably lives at home, or at someone else’s house and just pays like $400 a month to stay there.
She’s a teacher, so she has kids that aren’t hers, and probably pays her phone bill and auto loan and student debt (and possibly rent to her shitty parents). Those parents of course don’t consider those real bills.
It’s worse when you consider that “real bills”, ie a mortgage, is probably out of her reach while he had it easy.
He’s mocking his own daughter, when she probably got absolutely fucked by corruption and the economy, for not having the opportunity to indebt herself for housing, when he probably bought his house on a potato salary.
The fuck does no real bills mean? Does eating, rent and gas/insurance not count as real bill?
Forget the bills, why does she clarify no real kids?
I assumed that they might be referring to either pets or kids in her class at school. Don’t teachers have to pay for stuff out of pocket a lot of times?
Don’t teachers have to pay for stuff out of pocket a lot of times?
Yep. But at least you can claim that on your taxes! Only up to $300 per year though.
(Spoiler alert: it’s always more than $300 a year)
Stranger still: “no real kid(s)”.
More importantly what does no real kids mean?
Step kids? Only daughters? Just pets?
Probably the kids she has in classroom.
Students, maybe?
You know what, i kinda agree. Eating, rent, transport, etc shouldnt be real bills. A teacher 100% should be able to pay for those easily.
I mean that is how it works in my country, not so much the US
She only has fake kids and fake bills
I bet it was because she is not married and has kids. The conservative mind ladies and gentleman and in betweens.
It’s her students
Dammit Mom, my 56 imaginary kids cost me nearly my ENTIRE paycheck! Have some sympathy.
But for real, what is “real kids?”
because she’s a teacher she probably pays out of pocket for school/project supplies. i’ve known a good few teachers, and refereeing to students as sort-of surrogate children is very common. i’d put my money on the mom hassling the daughter about not yet having kids, and the daughter saying something like “i already have kids!” and this idiot is still bitter about it because she feels she is OWED grandchildren.
i’m making a LOT of assumptions here, but like i said i WOULD put money on it. you hear enough firsthand stories and you start making these sort of assumptions.
Sounds like she’s bitter that she hasn’t been given the grandchildren she thinks she is owed.
I think the parent is male.
I wonder if this lady will ever realize the politicians she votes for (come on, we know which party) are why her daughter with one of the most importsnt jobs in the entire world can’t afford to see. Probably not.
Why does she say no real kids? Did she adopt or something and the mom is crazy?
Probably has a pet or two and doesn’t want any “real” kids so they don’t end up acting like their parents…
My fifth grade teacher never had any kids, and considered us as her children. Maybe something like that is what she is referring to?
She has robokids
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Can confirm from the tail end of Gen X. There were some total cunts that called themselves neo-conservatives that I went to a Liberal Arts College, called Transylvania University with. One would have thought they would have taken even a cursory look at that school and declared it part of “The Leftist Elite,” but they still ended up there somehow.
No no no, you don’t understand! Liberal Arts colleges are infested with leftist agents and propaganda, and one could never gain anything of value studying there!
Unless, of course, you’re a conservative man who studied economics there; then, your education makes you knowledgable and impressive. Of course, of course…
Ok, but Transylvania University? Like even if you have any clue as to why a liberal arts university in Lexington, KY is called that, you have to know that some pretty weird people are going to be attracted to the name alone. Rocky Horror Picture Show fans, Vampire fans of a holy shit spectrum from Bram Stoker all the way to Anne Rice, while I was there. Not to mention artistic freaks of every single sort. I really don’t know what they were thinking.
Fair enough, my sentiment was towards liberal arts schools in general. Transylvania University is quite a name.
Fuck of with that stupid generationism. This is narcissism, a mental illness which exists in people of all ages.
Generationism is something that is made up to make people forget about the actual structural problems in society.
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- Teaching is a real job, probably one of the hardest
- Your daughter is fucking blind, and you’re laughing at her? You are slime
- Being a teacher usually requires a Master’s degree. She very probably has student debt.
She absolutely doesn’t need Lasik though. Calling her out isn’t cool though.
No it doesn’t
Depends on where you live
Lasik doesn’t fix blindness. If Lasik can help, most people live with corrective lenses, because they are much much cheaper even over the long haul than Lasik.
I certainly disagree with going to social media over the exchange, but Lasik is far from a “need” for anyone and isn’t something to consider equivalent to “curing blindness”
Lasik isn’t some life saving critical operation that would be provided for if she lived in a leftist European state, you make do with contacts or glasses until you can afford it. The parent is a dumbass too for running to twitter with this but it is an elective.
“No one has audacity like the people you raised” proceeds to post about it to potentially millions of people, you know like people without audacity do.
It wouldn’t occur to me to broadcast this to others on the internet, especially with personal details, even for a random solicitor, let alone a family member, let alone my own child.
And since the kid didn’t anticipate the public ridicule, it may very well be the first time they ever asked for this kind of help. What an awful way to learn your parent considers you little more than an expendable prop in their social life.
In nature, some species prey upon their young. We usually understand this as an evolutionary mechanism, to ensure only the strongest offspring survive. With that in mind, if your parent behaves like this, consider that they may no longer be your caregiver, and it may be time for you to decide what it takes to be the offspring that survives.
Social darwinism disgusts me…
Social Darwinism disgusts me…
Same, but I picked this illustration for a reason.
Abusive parents often use essentialist language to keep their children bound with obligation and guilt. Vulnerability to that rhetoric tends to be associated with notions of “natural law,” so I suspect a natural metaphor has a better chance of resonating with those that need to hear it.
And when the time comes that shitty person will ask “why she doesn’t love me? Why she threw me to this garbage asylum?” without understanding it.
And only because at some point they decided to stop hearing anyone who disagreed. It’s not just their kids who stop talking to them. Eventually everyone figures it out, and this type of person ends up pretty isolated later in life.
It wouldn’t occur to me to broadcast this to others on the internet, especially with personal details, even for a random solicitor, let alone a family member, let alone my own child.
That enrages me. I don’t understand why people feel the need to air their dirty laundry on social media. Keep that shit to yourself, the relevant parties, and your therapist.
For some reason, some folks think they can make themselves look better by making everyone around them look worse.
I’m hoping she doesn’t teach highschoolers. If her students cought wind of this post and worked out it was about their teacher, classroom management goes out the window.
Someone tell them “i think i raised an entitled shit” isn’t the pwn they think it is
The biggest child in the room is that pain in the ass of a parent.
My daughter that is under-paid because she’s a teacher and they are all under-paid is asking me for financial help, and I’m a scumbag outing her for trying to have a better quality of life with a medical procedure early in her working career.
Man, I hate the internet sometimes…
