“Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia. After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016 she’s at it again,” DNC spokesman Matt Corridoni said in a statement to The Bulwark. “Jill Stein won’t become president, but her spoiler candidacy—that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in—can help decide who wins. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.”

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    LOL ok, you’re cool with throwing your vote away

    that doesn’t mean anyone else is obliged to waste time “rationalizing” NOT throwing their vote away to you

    do what you want. just know that your third party vote did NOTHING for palestine. and NOTHING for anyone else either.

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      I wish it meant we did nothing for palestine. Instead of it meaning bombs and funding continues to pour into the arms of the country thats killing them.

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          Nah im voting for a candidate that has not voted to arm and fund an ongoing genocide.

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            And helping Trump who wants to accelerate that same genocide while starting another one here at home.

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              Genocide is an absolute non starter. If one party supports it and one supports it harder, you need to burn down the whole political field and start over.

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            LOL aka throwing your fucking vote away

            i’m not telling anyone how to vote. i’m just saying that a vote for third party is a vote that goes straight in the fucking trash

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      Telling someone they are throwing away their vote because they won’t support your team is right wing authoritarian voter suppression.

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        “Teams” don’t enter into it.

        One candidate poses an existential threat to our country and way of life.

        One other candidate can defeat them.

        Taking a vote away from the 2nd candidate has the same net effect as voting for the first one.

        You either help beat Trump or you help elect him. A 3rd party will not win, so voting 3rd party doesn’t help beat Trump.

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          Both pose a threat to the country, but right now one dragged themselves out of the sewer like they do every four years to talk progressive and proactive, then proceed to legislate like their Republican counterparts after the election.

          My goal is to defeat both threats to the country and our quality of life, not slowly extend everyone’s pain.

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              Liberals refusing to challenge the system that allowed a demagogue like Trump to be elected will be the demise of the country. Saying war is bad but I’m gonna vote for you regardless is not challenging the system, that’s rewarding them for bad behavior. Electing the people complicit in propping up that system only prolongs the suffering of people.

              They will cling to fascism to protect the few table crumbs that get tossed at them.

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        Nice straw man. You’re throwing your vote away because you are voting for a candidate that has zero chance of winning, while one of the two actual options is a literal fascist who will give Netanyahu carte blanche in Palestine and the other realizes she has to walk a narrow tightrope before November if she wants to get elected and have any influence over Israel whatsoever.

        But I know you know this already.

        If the Green Party was a serious political party, then why do they never care about down ballot elections? Why don’t they ever care about local elections? Why do they disappear, only to crawl out from their hole every four years to sow division among American voters?

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          Netanyahu has Carte Blanche right now. The US has completed over 500 weapons deliveries to Israel. And Harris has already said she’s continuing the shit we have going on right now.

          There are plenty of greens holding local offices right now, but you would know that if you looked instead of relying on someone to feed you propaganda that’s designed for their purposes.

          Why is it every 4 years Democrats rise from the sewers and talk progressive and populous then go right back to legislating like their Republican counterparts after the election?

          Telling someone their vote is wasted or meaningless is right-wing authoritarian voter suppression.