• lobut@lemmy.ca
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    12 hours ago

    I’ve had a friend tell me that her stream group (and her) or whatever was happy to see these woke games die. I’m only looking at this superficially but what about this game is woke? I just thought it was shit.

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      9 minutes ago

      nah, the game had shit marketing, shit and generic characters design, was 8 years too late, it’s basically overwatch but overwatch is free, valve has a hero shooter just around the corner, that’s probably as “woke” as it can but it’s free and exploding in numbers(even in closed alpha), if the problem was just the woke part, it would have attracted these “woke” people,but no one played it lol

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      10 hours ago

      I believe the game showed pronouns on the character select screen. That’s all it takes to make certain people mad, unfortunately.

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        I know next to nothing about this game but I believe it was the pronouns on a robot that set people off.

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      10 hours ago

      LPT: I t’s usually a safe bet to ignore anyone deriding a game for its “wokeness,” their opinions are reactionary and not based in any reasonable sense of reality

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      Character design, at first look. Some original concept art was ignored or altered for reasons of inclusivity. For some reason “inclusivity” means making characters ugly, fat, and unappealing.

      Essentially, from appearance, it seems someone in their D.E.I. department wanted to force a subversion of beauty standards (and believability) down everyone’s throats. Top that off with it being Yet Another Live Service Hero Shooter, and you have the majority of the gaming community taking one look at it… And then looking the other way. With a lot of others making fun of it.

      For those who did bought it there seemed to be a completely pointless pronoun element to the game, and people are getting seriously sick and tired of seeing identity politics in everything.

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        You mean this?

        This doesn’t have diddly to do with inclusivity. You’re just laser focusing on the lipstick as the source of everything and somehow connecting a woman wearing lipstick to inclusivity. I guess it’s because incels think a woman’s makeup shouldn’t be visible? The original is exactly as inclusive as the new version. The reason the new one sucks, is because they hired crap animators and probably gave them no time to do their jobs and hardly any pay.

        Some internet person created this redesign and it’s exactly as inclusive as the ingame version, while also being cool.

        And here’s a redesign where they made a character look less like a straight cisgender human, and it slaps! Diversity is awesome, I want more lizard cowboys.

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        5 hours ago

        Are you saying that you’re in the tribe of people who are sick of identity politics?

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          I personally find that identity politics is far too often used as a shield against genuine criticism. Some corporate types create something bland, or just outright terrible, and add a whole lot of tokenism. Someone points out that the story is terrible, the characters are terrible, and that it seems to do nothing but pander, and they’re immediately likened to some of the worst people on Earth.

          Surely only the most militant alt-right extremist would criticise these committee curated progressive consumable products!

          Short answer is “yes”, although it’s much less of a tribe and more just the average person.

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            Do you have an example? I’m cynical, I believe companies would add diverse but two-dimensional characters to pander to an audience.

            But then I thought only actual bigots were called out, like if they’re screeching that some “anachronistic” black character exists in a game that also contains magic spells and dragons. I thought normal complaints like “story is awful and characters have no depth” are generally received without an antagonistic response.

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              Oh but that’s the fun part; people criticise that a game or a series or a movie prioritises D.E.I. over telling a good story and then they get lumped together with the few who are actual bigots. It’s easy to pretend that all the failings of something is because of nasty people rather than it just sucking.

              So, examples?

              NuTrek, especially Discovery and Picard. The Acolyte. Rings of Power. The Marvels. Black Panther 2. She Hulk. Wish.

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                I feel like the Ghostbusters reboot was the first big example of this. It was rightly criticized for being an actually bad movie, and Sony dismissed it and doubled down on the misogyny angle.