• Kaboom@reddthat.com
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    2 months ago

    Well, the range part of the equation isn’t. A fuel tank doesn’t get smaller over time, and you can replace one fairly easily. Batteries die over time, and can’t be replaced easily.

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      2 months ago

      Doesn’t fuel efficiency go down, though? I’d say that’s roughly equivalent to the battery losing effectiveness. And generally requires fixing or outright replacing key components to get back to par.

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          2 months ago

          True, the scale isn’t quite the same, but the technology is also much newer. You’d agree that fuel efficiency, much like battery efficiency, does go down, though?

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            2 months ago

            To a certain extent yes. Cams get worn down, coils make less spark, that sort of thing.

            But as you said, the scale is way different. It’s the difference between a million miles and a hundred thousand. And at a million miles, even the chassis itself starts to become a maintenance item.

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      2 months ago

      They aren’t that hard, just no one wants to actually do it. Harder than a fuel tank and requires actual training, for sure, but it isn’t that hard for a trained person. I’ve seen reports of batteries actually doing fairly well, although I suspect that’s brand dependant, the Nissan leaf got a pretty bad rep for being hot trash. Literally, I think the issue was a passive cooled battery just degrading it at absurd rates.

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        2 months ago

        You drain it, unbolt 2 straps, pull the pump, and then put the pump in the new tank, and replace the tank. You might even get lucky and not have to undo any fuel hoses.

        With skateboard designs, like all Teslas, you have to remove the entire interior.

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          I haven’t seen Tesla’s getting the battery swapped.much, but I’ve seen others that while probably taking a few hours isn’t removing the entire interior. Honestly, that’s just yet another reason to not buy a Tesla, as if there weren’t enough reasons to avoid them as it is

          Having had a petrol tank replaced, you make it seem like it’s a 15 minute job, definitely isn’t, at least it wasn’t in my ford falcon (au, 2000 model) and that’s a basic removed car.