If asking you to explain a simple fundamental thing for you is too overwhelming then too bad. I’m not arguing quantum physics with someone that can’t do arithmetic. You can’t talk US legislation and policy like it’s a soccer game. I’m more than convinced now than ever you don’t know what you’re talking about and Im glad I didn’t waste any more time going down a rabbit hole only to learn later you are out of your depth.
If asking you to explain a simple fundamental thing for you is too overwhelming then too bad. I’m not arguing quantum physics with someone that can’t do arithmetic.
And I’m asking you to explain a much simpler, much more fundamental thing, and you can’t. I strongly recommend investing in some diapers.
Im glad I didn’t waste any more time going down a rabbit hole only to learn later you are out of your depth.
Lol you filtered me out because I showed I wasn’t going to put up with your bullshit, bad faith tactics. You won’t submit to my test of knowledge so I won’t submit to yours. I of course understand what the president’s role is and isn’t when it comes to legislation, just as you (presumably) know the answer to my question, but I’m not going to play your game for the exact same reasons you won’t play mine. Because one side doesn’t just get to dictate all the terms of debate.
Still doesn’t change the facts of the matter, which are that everything I said is correct.
The fact that you lumped in PPP loans with student loans showed me you don’t understand a) basic econ b) policy and legislation. I figured that out pretty quick and wanted to give you a chance. You spent more time arguing why you should argue than simplify answering the question. Because of course, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m good thanks
I didn’t ask you to give me a list of logical fallacies, I asked you to explain the difference between peepee and poopoo. Why wouldn’t you do that unless you just don’t know the answer? Care to explain?
Pee is liquid and is excreted from from the urethra and poo poo is feces excreted from the anus. Done.
Now can you explain why PPP loans were forgiven? What is the context and legislative background behind PPP loans? How are they related/similar to student loans? Why was major student loan relief stalled legislatively? Show us you understand anything about what you’re talking about? Give one specific example.
Sorry. Too many many overwhelming questions to your buzzword statement? I hope i’m not gish galloping ad hom slippery slope false equivocating here. Feel free to answer just one question with specific example and source.
I can’t believe you actually did it 🤣 You really couldn’t admit that both of our questions were unfair, huh?
PPP loans were loans given out in response to COVID that were intended to help prevent small businesses survive. In reality, they were handed out left and right with little oversight.
They were part of the CARES Act passed under the Trump administration.
They’re not related to student loans except insofar as they’re both government loans (though student loans are generally managed through third parties). The White House seemed to think it was a fair comparison, though.
There were several different pieces of legislation regarding student loans, so you’ll have to be more specific about which effort you’re talking about.
It’s now 4 AM and while I may make questionable choices regarding my sleep schedule and internet arguments, I do need to get some sleep.
If you have any further questions, then be prepared to answer more of mine in exchange.
Other guy is being a bit of a dick, tbh, but you do realize that the PPP loans weren’t just “passed with little oversight”, right? Democrats tried to get oversight and Republicans fought tooth and nail to strip as much oversight as possible. There’s a reason that Republicans disproportionately scammed PPP loans after they were finally passed in an extremely urgent situation where some sort of relief absolutely needed to go out.
At the end of the day, legislation is compromise but one party has unraveling and selling off of the state as their goal, which makes the feasible compromise point a bit hard to create effective legislation. As a result, this means there are no effective or honest Republicans, but there are at least some effective or honest democrats. It’s a sucky situation that is hard to crawl out of.
Let me remind you: you made the claim that because the government forgave some PPP loans the government can also and should forgive student debt. Which is a nonsense vague talking point repeated all the time and with no substance.
It betrays a complete misunderstanding of many key parts that go into how, why, and when student loans operate and can be discharged and how little they bear in relation to PPP loans. Nonetheless, this talking point was picked up and is still being spread like gospel or some clever gotcha.
I’ve answered your poop and pee question. I will answer any question you want.
Now can you explain why and how student loans can be forgiven in the same way that PPP loans were? Be specific.
If asking you to explain a simple fundamental thing for you is too overwhelming then too bad. I’m not arguing quantum physics with someone that can’t do arithmetic. You can’t talk US legislation and policy like it’s a soccer game. I’m more than convinced now than ever you don’t know what you’re talking about and Im glad I didn’t waste any more time going down a rabbit hole only to learn later you are out of your depth.
And I’m asking you to explain a much simpler, much more fundamental thing, and you can’t. I strongly recommend investing in some diapers.
Lol you filtered me out because I showed I wasn’t going to put up with your bullshit, bad faith tactics. You won’t submit to my test of knowledge so I won’t submit to yours. I of course understand what the president’s role is and isn’t when it comes to legislation, just as you (presumably) know the answer to my question, but I’m not going to play your game for the exact same reasons you won’t play mine. Because one side doesn’t just get to dictate all the terms of debate.
Still doesn’t change the facts of the matter, which are that everything I said is correct.
The fact that you lumped in PPP loans with student loans showed me you don’t understand a) basic econ b) policy and legislation. I figured that out pretty quick and wanted to give you a chance. You spent more time arguing why you should argue than simplify answering the question. Because of course, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m good thanks
Right back at you.
Remember what I said: diapers.
Here is a comprehensive list of logical fallacies:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
I recommend you start with “gish gallop”. I hope it’s not too many statements and overwhelming for you.
I didn’t ask you to give me a list of logical fallacies, I asked you to explain the difference between peepee and poopoo. Why wouldn’t you do that unless you just don’t know the answer? Care to explain?
Pee is liquid and is excreted from from the urethra and poo poo is feces excreted from the anus. Done.
Now can you explain why PPP loans were forgiven? What is the context and legislative background behind PPP loans? How are they related/similar to student loans? Why was major student loan relief stalled legislatively? Show us you understand anything about what you’re talking about? Give one specific example.
Sorry. Too many many overwhelming questions to your buzzword statement? I hope i’m not gish galloping ad hom slippery slope false equivocating here. Feel free to answer just one question with specific example and source.
Take all the time you need.
I can’t believe you actually did it 🤣 You really couldn’t admit that both of our questions were unfair, huh?
PPP loans were loans given out in response to COVID that were intended to help prevent small businesses survive. In reality, they were handed out left and right with little oversight.
They were part of the CARES Act passed under the Trump administration.
They’re not related to student loans except insofar as they’re both government loans (though student loans are generally managed through third parties). The White House seemed to think it was a fair comparison, though.
There were several different pieces of legislation regarding student loans, so you’ll have to be more specific about which effort you’re talking about.
It’s now 4 AM and while I may make questionable choices regarding my sleep schedule and internet arguments, I do need to get some sleep.
If you have any further questions, then be prepared to answer more of mine in exchange.
Other guy is being a bit of a dick, tbh, but you do realize that the PPP loans weren’t just “passed with little oversight”, right? Democrats tried to get oversight and Republicans fought tooth and nail to strip as much oversight as possible. There’s a reason that Republicans disproportionately scammed PPP loans after they were finally passed in an extremely urgent situation where some sort of relief absolutely needed to go out.
At the end of the day, legislation is compromise but one party has unraveling and selling off of the state as their goal, which makes the feasible compromise point a bit hard to create effective legislation. As a result, this means there are no effective or honest Republicans, but there are at least some effective or honest democrats. It’s a sucky situation that is hard to crawl out of.
Let me remind you: you made the claim that because the government forgave some PPP loans the government can also and should forgive student debt. Which is a nonsense vague talking point repeated all the time and with no substance.
It betrays a complete misunderstanding of many key parts that go into how, why, and when student loans operate and can be discharged and how little they bear in relation to PPP loans. Nonetheless, this talking point was picked up and is still being spread like gospel or some clever gotcha.
I’ve answered your poop and pee question. I will answer any question you want.
Now can you explain why and how student loans can be forgiven in the same way that PPP loans were? Be specific.