She joined pro-Palestinians just days after Oct. 7, posting a photo of herself holding a sign reading “Stand with Gaza” — alongside a toy octopus, which some read as an allusion to the Nazis’ antisemitic propaganda visualizing Judaism’s supposed network of control over the world.

Octopus is Khamas.

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      cringe you don’t have to do that, just reject the dichotomy. Antisemitism is still a real thing it’s not like anti-Italian bigotry or whatever, and we still have to be wary of letting antisemites use the left to carry their vile hatred, even when Palestinian genocide is such an enormous problem that it warps the importance of other problems.

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          Those might be comparable in the sense that if someone called me a terrorist, I’d sooner try to challenge the assumptions that led them to make the claim than the claim itself because I understand why they’d call me a terrorist (or an antisemite) but I believe those reasons are frivolous and easily dismissed. But I’d be much more careful trying to lean into being called an antisemite, when called a terrorist I might say “and I’d fly those planes into the towers again” but I would never say something similar when called an antisemite.

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      they can say lots of things, reject framing and spit on fools

      (it’s akin to agreeing to questions of “would you say n-word to save your family”, there are no comic book villains around)

      P.S. What it does imply though, you can’t take so and so is an anti-semite as being true judgement. Before corbyn, i would very unlikely to pursue the truth of somebody called that, and put them into the ignore box. Now that check of “anti-semitism” requires some verification (or more trustworthy than adl/government source)

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          Yes, but he did kinda weird thing at one concert which for me was enough to put him in a box of (heart in right place, but might be perceived antisemitic).

          But I think I looked into it during corbyn saga, because I try not to pay attention to what celebs think or do. Some of them might support my positions, some will not, what exactly does that bring me (unless it’s like laser focused on the fan of the group/person/team, who is simultaneously unaware of their positions), they are celebs, random people politics wise, famous for other talents

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            Yes, but he did kinda weird thing at one concert

            Oh you mean The Wall?

            It’s bullshit. They only call him an antisemite because he is against a genocide and then just went back and looked for any of his work to portray him as a Nazi, without any critical examination of the art.