• takeda@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Whatever happened to smaller Ford Ranger type trucks?

    I could be wrong, but I heard it was emission regulations that happened.

    As the emission standards became stricter, the truck manufacturers started producing bigger trucks as they had more lax emission requirements.

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      3 months ago

      Fuel efficiency standards are more relaxed for a vehicle with a larger “footprint”. So that incentivizes larger vehicles because it’s easier to pass MPG standards.

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      3 months ago

      You’re right. But it’s more that emissions standards didn’t happen.

      Cars got them while trucks got them much, much less. So they build more trucks and fewer cars.

      They should just have a road tax based on weight and an emissions tax based on emissions. Not emissions per class twice removed just CO2 per mile. All vehicles.

      Roads get maintained by the weight tax, emissions tax to fund decarbonisation of the economy.

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        3 months ago

        But instead they’re charging me an extra $100 to renew my tags for my hybrid sedan. If i had a full electric, it would be $200 extra.

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          3 months ago

          Gas vehicles pay that as taxes on gas, hybrid and electric cars put more wear on the roads due to their weight so it’s only fair that owners would pay for road maintenance as well.

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            3 months ago

            I understand that, and i have no problem paying my fair share as a driver. But it’s a hybrid and thus I still do buy gas. On top of that, I work from home and really just don’t drive that much, so that makes it feel especially unfair for me since the new fee is not usage-based like the gas tax. Regarding the weight argument, most of the huge trucks and giant SUVs I see driving around here weight around a literal ton more than my car (sure they also get shit gas milage, but that’s something they knew when they bought the damn things). I also looked up the weight for the ICE version of my car and the hybrid weights less than 100lbs more.

            It wouldn’t bother me so much if they had ear-marked some or most of the funds towards charging stations, improving roadways with bike and pedestrian safety in mind, and public transport initiatives, but as it stands, it sure feels like i’m being forced to subsidize road damage from gas-guzzling toddler smashers.

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              3 months ago

              As you said, those huge trucks burn more gas therefore they put more money into road maintenance, your car weights the same as a much bigger car while getting better mileage so there needs to be some form of compensation and unless you want the government to come and check your mileage every year to charge you a fee then it’s a flat rate, which you should have known about before buying your car.

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                3 months ago

                Actually, the law was passed a full two years after i purchased my car. And they could have easily checked my milage when i took my car in for emissions testing.

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      It’s partially that, the fact that instead of making the trucks more efficient they made them larger to skirt the regulation, but another factor is the profitability of larger trucks. It doesn’t cost them that much more to make a massive truck vs a reasonable vehicle but the target market for unnecessarily large trucks is willing to pay hand over fist for them and so the manufacturers and distributors make more money per sale by a large margin.

      So when you see a large truck, don’t just think “someone who’s compensating” but also think “someone who got fleeced”.

      The roads would be safer without massive trucks, no one should be above ridicule.

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        3 months ago

        Just to be clear, small trucks weren’t good on gas either (I would know, I’ve had a bunch of them) and we’re at the point where full sized trucks and mid sized trucks get pretty much the same fuel economy. The shape of the vehicle is bad for fuel economy, it’s that simple…

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          3 months ago

          I could get 25 mpg average with my old ass stick ranger regularly going 75+ mph.

          You’re luck to average 19 mpg on a flat highway going 55-65.