• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It just makes him look like an mentally ill suicide victim.

    Imagine looking at this and reaching the conclusion that it is he and not the world that has gone mad.

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      2 months ago

      What, are you 16? Do you think this is some kind of life-changing insight?

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        2 months ago

        It changes nothing. He’s still dead and the genocide continues for your entertainment.

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      2 months ago

      Anyone who blames themselves for something they have absolutely no say in or control over, to the degree they are willing to set themselves on fire over it, is mentally ill.

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        2 months ago

        Your confused. Self-immolation isn’t about self-punishment anymore than any other protest method.

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          2 months ago

          It’s the “we are all culpable” leading to the immolation that’s indicative of mental illness.

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            2 months ago

            He said “we are all culpable” not “I alone am culpable.”

            I think most if not all of the “he’s nuts” talk is from people who would rather not consider themselves culpable.

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              He said “we are all culpable” not “I alone am culpable.”

              And that’s stupid binary thinking and he was wrong.

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                2 months ago

                I think most if not all of the “he’s nuts” talk is from people who would rather not consider themselves culpable.

                Thus.

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        2 months ago

        Any world in which the principal superpower lets a tiny nation write its foreign policy for it, to the point where that superpower is giving the tiny nation the means to commit genocide and refuses to stop, is a profoundly sick world.

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          2 months ago

          Israel attacked an intelligence gathering ship to prevent it from realizing that Israel was the one starting shit in Syria… then the US really started supporting it.

          Israel is a blight on the world.

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      2 months ago

      I’m gonna say the guy that self immolated was not mentally well even if I agree with his cause

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        By comparison with a world in which the major superpower can’t muster a candidate who opposes genocide? Yeah, the world is way sicker than this guy was.

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          I’m not nor was I comparing it to anything. If you self immolate, that’s a very strong indicator you’re not mentally well. Again, I agree with their cause but it’s really weird to imply they were mentally healthy when they decided to light themselves on fire and die horrifically

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              Wow, that’s some deep thought, there, R D Laing. What if we’re the crazy ones?

              People close to me have schizophrenia. It’s as much a disease as cancer is. If you don’t believe that, you’ve never experienced it up close, or you have an inability to learn from direct experience.

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                People close to me have schizophrenia.

                Same. I don’t use their illness as an excuse to ignore atrocities.

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      2 months ago

      I mean dude did kill himself by setting himself on fire. That’s pretty nuts

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          More immediate cause was probably all that burning gasoline he poured on himself. What a waste

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              You’re trying to blame the US for some suicidal man killing himself. Idk, I’m not a fan of suicide overall.

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                  That’s unfortunate

                  Would you like me to be pro-suicide…? That’s whack

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          I’m encouraging others not to waste their lives, when they can accomplish far more by staying alive and engaging.

          But if you want to torch yourself and refuse to get professional help, I can’t stop you. Just don’t encourage others to emulate your disordered thinking.

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            Nope. But we’re gonna keep doing it anyway, and calling this guy crazy because it’s easier than admitting that we are all culpable.

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              You are in no position to determine my degree of culpability, or that of anyone who’s not pulling a trigger.

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              a guy committed suicide by setting himself on fire

              yeah but you know global warming, so aren’t we all crazy

              Friend, come on

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                If you want to pretend that we live on a sane planet, well, when on Earth, do as the Earthlings do, I guess.

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                  I’m saying killing yourself over US actions isn’t a sane move. You brought up global warming in reply as if that meant anything in this discussion.

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                    I’m saying killing yourself over US actions isn’t a sane move.

                    And I’m saying that no product of this barking mad oblate spheroid is qualified to make that assessment. But dismissing him as insane is a great way to not have to treat his rebuke to humanity as the just condemnation it is.