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- politics@beehaw.org
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- politics@beehaw.org
Donald Trump flubbed the last debate. His allies know it, his fundraisers know it—but that doesn’t mean they’re willing to admit it.
On Thursday, the Republican presidential nominee announced that he had decided not to debate Vice President Kamala Harris for a second time, writing in a lengthy rant on Truth Social that “THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE!” (Apparently he’s counting his debate against Joe Biden.)
But less than 24 hours after the major reversal, Trump’s team was already working to explain away why the country would be getting less of their candidate.
If he’d just fact check the statistics by, idk, maybe talking to medical personnel, he’d know the late term “abortion” statistics are stillbirth removal. The procedure used to do a stillbirth removal: abortion. That’s where the confusion comes in. Removal of the fetus for any reason is an abortion. Statistics don’t document the details on the procedure.
So he’s already talking crazy. And then he’s saying they’re executing infants after birth. What is that? How do you even get to that place that those words are allowed to earnestly spill from your mouth?
I’m just trying to imagine a person who goes through 8 months of pregnancy and then decides they don’t want it. If I’m really reaching for something, I have heard from a few women who love the hormone cocktail they get from pregnancy, but I doubt even they would go that far.
The people who have third trimester abortions aren’t doing it for fun, or even because they have a real choice.
Second Trimester. Those are the happy hormones. Mileage can vary, always, like with those individuals who have morning sickness right up until they give birth, as one example. But high odds for second trimester happy hormones.
You may be right about Trump’s confusion, but the removal of a stillbirth is not called abortion
Here’s a fairly accessible article on D&C. It even puts it into Roe context.
https://www.mother.ly/health-wellness/womens-health/is-d-and-c-an-abortion-dilation-and-curettage/
Scalpels are used in Apendectomies and plastic surgery… It does not mean all Apendectomies are plastic surgeries because the both use scalpels in the same way digging your backyard to bury a body is very illegal yet digging to put a plant in the grown is not
The article you post highlights a problem created by poorly written, knee jerk reaction republican law
Both abortions and stillbirth removal may use similar techniques but, at least in the medical world, they are not both refered to as abortions even if both include induced labour (for example)
I’m in the medical industry.
I’m trying to use non-industry language with a not terrible article to help you understand. But you seem to want to be pedantic regarding some kind of investment in Trump’s words on late term and possibly even post birth “abortion” being a thing when it certainly is not.
I’ve attempted to educate. You’ve attempted to subvert that and go full bore pedantic. And now I need to go to work.
Why does everyone here in Lemmy feel it’s an affront to disagree or clarify something?!
I do not care to continue to bend over backwards to interpret and conjure what possible sense Trump may have had. He is spewing hateful bullshit and I will not indulge him filling the blanks. If you want to keep on translating for Trump, that’s on you
Yeah, I’m the pedantic one here…
I have work in the medical field for 20 years; I have yet to hear anyone refer to a dead fetus removal as an abortion. Abortion is defined as the “termination of pregnancy”… when a fetus dies for natural causes, the pregnancy has been terminated; any and all procedures afterwards to safeguard the life of the mother are NOT considered an abortion.