A progressive who stays home on Election Day — or backs Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Cornel West, or No Labels — is voting for Donald Trump.

"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that ‘some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest’ of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called ‘social fascists.’

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
    1025·
    7 days ago

    “Not true”? What part are you refuting? Are you saying that they count non-Trump votes as Trump votes?

    Would you agree with me that if no one voted for Trump, he would not win?

    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
      196·
      7 days ago

      You’re living in a fantasy. In real life where the rest of us are, a lot of people will be voting for Trump. And yes, any misguided third party vote is a vote for Trump.

      Did you even read what this post is?

      • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
        1014·
        7 days ago

        Yes, I read the article.

        So, just to be clear: A progressive who doesn’t vote, or who votes in the general election for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. or Cornel West or Jill Stein — or whoever No Labels puts up as a candidate — is voting for Donald Trump.

        This is precisely the lie I am referencing in my original comment.

        I am tired of people blaming voters who didn’t vote for the fascist being blamed for the fascist winning. Blame those who actually voted for the fascist.

        • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
          121·
          7 days ago

          Why do you think no one is blaming people that vote for him? Absolutely no one has ever said anything like that.

          • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
            411·
            7 days ago

            I did not mean to imply that no one is. But those who did not vote for him are not responsible for him winning, and should carry no blame.

            • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
              103·
              7 days ago

              I can’t talk to you anymore, I’m sorry but you refuse to learn. People like you helped get us in this mess 8 years ago.

            • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
              34·
              7 days ago

              am tired of people blaming voters who didn’t vote for the fascist being blamed for the fascist winning. Blame those who actually voted for the fascist.

              I did not mean to imply that no one is.

              Textbook definition of bad faith arguments.

        • mashbooq@lemmy.world
          42·
          7 days ago

          We do blame those who actually vote for the fascist. We also blame those who effectively vote for the fascist by not voting for the only actual alternative. Your vote is not about you; its about the system you’re in. Making material change means working with what you have, instead of voting in a way to preserve a personal aesthetic.

    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldOPM
      105·
      7 days ago

      I’m saying the candidate isn’t “Not Trump”.

      If Trump has 47% of the vote, and you allow the “Not Trump” majority to be divided among 3 or 4 people, Trump wins.

      Only one person can beat Trump, the Democratic candidate. Voting for anyone else only helps Trump.

      We don’t have an Presidential election that goes “Well, OK, nobody got 50%+1 so knock out everyone but the top two and do it again…”

      • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
        313·
        7 days ago

        I’m well aware of how the election works. You did not answer my most important question.

        Would you agree with me that if no one voted for Trump, then Trump would not win?