I tend to browse /All and by New on Lemmy. I went to respond on a thread on !vegan@lemmy.world to thank someone for a recipe that looked good, and found out I had been banned.
Odd, considering I hadn’t posted to that sub at any point in the past. I checked the modlog to find that “Mod” had banned a bunch of people citing “Rule 5.”
Their Rule 5 states: Bad-faith carnist rhetoric & anti-veganism are not allowed, as this is not a space to debate the merits of veganism. Anyone is welcome here, however, and so good-faith efforts to ask questions about veganism may be given their own weekly stickied post in the future (see current stickied discussion).
I (and hundreds of others) seemingly broke rule 5 of this community without ever posting there. What is going on?
And my apologies if this isn’t the place for this, but I had no idea where else to post the question.
What a great ride. I started this thread thinking Objection was being a dick, but OP bringing up logical fallacies in an internet argument is usually a red flag signalling a nugget head.
Jumping into a vegan space to argue someone isn’t being vegan for the right reasons? While I don’t think it’s permanent-ban worthy it’s annoying as fuck.
I’m not even vegan and that looked like some bullshit to me.
But I didn’t go into a vegan space, nor did I mention logical fallacies.
The thread they brought up was from a memes Community. The person I was posting against at the time was PMing people and telling them to kill themselves.
Oops you’re right. I did not correctly check the sub. I stand by the rest. Arguing logical fallacies against someone’s diet choices is a dick move and is still arguing against veganism.
I can’t verify if they were telling people to kill themselves or what that has to do with their reasons for eating plants. If I made death threats online, which no one should do and is a faux pas, I should still be able to use factory farming as a reason for avoiding meat.
Again, don’t think it’s ban worthy. I’m in the peanut gallery over here just having a good time.
I also wasn’t arguing against their dietary choices. I was showing that their arguments could be turned back on themselves because they were spurious at best.
Before I replied, the now-deleted user was stating that there was no reason to eat meat unless you’re a psychopath and love murder and was threatening suicide, violence to others, and other such garbage throughout the thread, then followed it up with a stream of PMs to a bunch of users including myself with some… not great / illegal content (we’ll say).
My response was purely a “let’s look at your statements, but in good faith” exercise.
Put simply, they started attacking food choices first and I called them on it. I’m okay with what I said.
You know what? Even with missing the content, I think your statement is fair. I’ve got a sore spot for using fallacies and disagree with your arguments against the reasons for a vegan diet, but you seem genuine in your motives. I apologize for calling you a nugget head.
I legitimately appreciate that.
As an aside, it’s odd how much was purged from this thread. Not just deleted, but straight up purged so it doesn’t show in the modlogs. I don’t think I’ve seen that done on my instance outside of the illegal stuff. Is that normal here on .world?
I don’t read comments often enough to know what’s normal. The only good reason I can think of is anti-bot/anti-spam measures and even then it’s a bit strange. How do you know they were purged?
Always check the receipts.