Really you don’t need to read more than one chart:

If you vote for anyone other than Harris, you’re voting for Trump:

  • Convict45@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    It’s pretty weird to insist on a course of action that won’t result in something you want. If you think both parties are the same, you’re wildly misinformed.

    • bloodfart
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      I don’t think anyone suggested both parties are the same.

      • Convict45@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        If they aren’t the same in their view, they they would be sensible to care about which wins. They have a stake in a less harmful result.

        But literally throwing away their vote on a third party, they are inflicting harm on themselves, the electorate, and the world.

        • bloodfart
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          2 months ago

          Who are you talking about?

          Third party votes get counted and have an effect. The whole idea of throwing one’s vote away is so nonsensical that it was lampooned in a simpsons bit.

          If third party voters are inflicting harm on all the groups you mentioned, does that mean they’re responsible for the harm caused by one or the other party? Would you extend that to people who actively voted for those two parties? To the people enacting those parties policies? Deciding them?

          Just how responsible for Bidens genocide in Gaza would you say a person who voted third party or trump in 2020 can be held?

          • Convict45@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            Did you even READ the original linked article?

            Seems like not.

            Voting third party is the same as voting for Trump. THAT’S the effect that third party votes have. You’re deluding yourself if you think they have any other effect in this upcoming election.

            • bloodfart
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 months ago

              Wait how is a third party vote the same as a trump vote, they’re for different candidates?

              Third party votes don’t get counted towards trumps total and the president isn’t elected by popular vote anyway.

                • bloodfart
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  2 months ago

                  I did read the article.

                  It doesn’t make a convincing case that a third party vote is the same as a trump vote. That’s why I asked you to explain how you came to that conclusion.

                  The article also claims third parties can’t possibly expect to get any electoral votes but then says if they did then it could create a situation where the house chooses the president.

                  If dems want third party voters to support them and are in danger of losing for want of third party voters, dems can simply pick up platforms and policies that third party voters want.