• HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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    I get this and don’t get how the libertarian party in my country seems more aligned with our nutty conservatives. I feel like they bought into that no government thing. Granted I would say it starts with though which in law is expressed first as speech but next is certainly the body which is far before land.

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      I think many people arrive at libertarianism not by following core principles, but instead by following their reactionary personal desires.

      Business owners become libertarian because eliminating taxes and worker protections is great for their short term profits.

      “Traditional family” men become libertarian because they want to wishcast the fantasy of being a strong, independent, agrarian citizen with an obedient wife.

      Pedophiles become libertarian because eliminating age of consent laws would legalize their sick desires.

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        2 months ago

        funny thing is in terms of philosophy im apparently pretty libertarian. I mean its not all that surprising as I flirted with it in college but the extremes man. Took a political compass test run by a european group and I cam up about halfaway between center and far left and far libertarian. Which is fair for nowadays. I still think the world has gone way right and authoritarian and I should come up much closer to center in any sane world or if that test was made at the end of the 70’s.

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          My feeling has always been that most alternative political theories that get attention really are a good way to do things, until you get to the application stage. Communism is a Utopia on paper, until you involve actual humans with greed and the wish to be better than the person standing beside them. Pure libertarianism, which I will hear no argument is not just anarchy in practice, is also fine and good, until you remember that we live in a society that has to account for the lowest denominators, and of the fact that, unless they’re forced to, nobody’s going to band together to build roads, and infrastructure, and help Grandma pay for her medications. Libertarianism is a reactionary outcome to the knee jerk reaction of someone looking at their paycheck, and seeing that the government took money that they feel like they earned all by themselves.

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            2 months ago

            yeah the compass basically is left/right authoritarian/libertarian which again I view as the correct interpretation but modern libertarians do seem to be about their own niche advantage. I end up falling halfway down im pretty sure due to free speech and stuff in the questions.