• Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Your own mouth is more of a contamination danger in room temperature shared food than anything else in the room.

    You really have no idea how unique and hostile mouth bacteria cultures are. NO idea.

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      2 months ago

      Not dangerous enough to give me any food-borne illness in more than 3 decades of double-dipping, I’ll continue to take my unique and hostile chances.

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        2 months ago

        There are cheap kits you can get online that already come lined with nutrients where you can do a swab and grow some bacterial colonies.

        Try swabbing your teeth 20 mins after brushing them and see what kind of colony grows

        Then make another one at 2 hours

        at 5 hours.

        Then just consider that when people eat, they almost never brush before and are often the furthest away from their last brushing as they could be.

        Bonus: Do some swabs from places you normally consider dirty, like the underside of your trashcan lid, or your toilet seat, and MARVEL at how much faster, and more variegated your mouth cultures are.

        I’m not joking, people who get even light grazes from the teeth of people they struggle with get ridiculously nasty infections, sometimes leading to amputation.

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          2 months ago

          Again, they’re not making me sick, it’s gonna be ok. Like, yeah I’ve seen the whole kitchen swab vs bathroom swab, all it proves is that we need to worry more about the virulence of present bacteria than the quantity of them. It may seem dirtier in the kitchen, but I guarantee you that eating off a plate in the kitchen is much much much much safer than eating off the rim of the toilet bowl.

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            2 months ago

            Um, no. I wasn’t trying to illustrate the whole ‘kitchen vs bathroom’, I was giving you two other understandable comparison so you understand JUST HOW FUCKDAMN virulent that bacterial ecosystem you have in your mouth is.

            If you HAD done the experiments, you would have likely seen the toilet swab as having 2 or 3 colonies and maybe a fungus, the kitchen would have been like 4 or 5 slowly spreading colonies.

            In the same time the swab from your mouth will colonize the ENTIRE dish with 6-12 different colonies, and likely one or two fungi as well.

            Mouth bacteria are REALLY on another level. Ask a biologist, they’ll tell you.

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              2 months ago

              Numerousness does not equal virulence, that was my point with the kitchen vs bathroom thing. Sure there’s way more colonies in my mouth, but again, if they were so virulent that I should be petrified to the bone of double-dipping like you are, I would have gotten sick many times over from it. And I havent. In more than thirty years of doing it. So it must not be an issue.

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                2 months ago

                Instead of maintaining your stubborn ignorance you could try even once doing your own research or asking a medical professional.

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                  2 months ago

                  You could try actually reading what I say and responding to the points brought up appropriately instead of ignoring it all and giving yourself more worry-ulcers. As previously stated twice, I’ve done my own research, three decades of it, and the results are undeniable. Medical professionals have way more important things to worry about than me never getting sick from eating chips and dip.

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                    2 months ago

                    Pretty clear proof your ‘years of research’ are asking people’s opinions in bars doesn’t compare to actual food safety knowledge.

                    It’s pretty tragic how people take their gut feelings and incorrect assumptions as commonly held knowledge, it’s kind of how we ran into the reproducibility crisis anyway.

                    Why don’t you go look up cop procedures for when they get bitten handling people, that’ll give you an idea how serious it is.

                    People have died from human teeth wounds, and its been long historically documented.