• Yewb@kbin.social
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    Removing russia from the internet would solve many problems for everyone else just not Russia

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      Reading the article that isn’t the goal.

      They are working on controlling access to the wider internet. The goal is to push people off of western services on to ones they control. This is so they can control the information their citizens see

      They wouldn’t stop Russian bot farms or hacking.

  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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    No it’s not. This is similar to “Russia trying to have a new moon program”. Not happening ever.

    The first part may happen, the second part - ahahaha.

    I live in Russia.

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      “Russian trying to build its own LAN” is the way I read it lol. You can’t have “inter” with no other peers.

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        Large intranets are not a problem (that’s how it was in the beginning in many places, rather fast and unlimited access to LAN resources, chats etc, but slow and expensive to the Internet), it’s just that nothing inside Russia is going to be self-sufficient.

        Also every dick without balls in a chair will try to get some control or share or get a bribe or just prevent this from happening so that his relative or something would get the contract.

        This wasn’t a factor with the large Internet being accessible (unbeatable competition), but will be with intranets (or a countrywide intranet). Nothing will get built. In the 90s such dicks simply didn’t understand that this is a good business, so they allowed it to grow (still all the major telecom providers that survived had some connections with FSB etc, or so people say).

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    They just want to remove their citizens from the internet, not themselves. It’s too useful for disinformation and general fuckery.

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    Okay, while I’m not a fan of a fragmented internet, I am a fan of losing all the russian trolls that plague many parts of the internet and online gaming. Counterstrike and similar games will lose their saltiest players too!

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      Unfortunately I don’t think this means they will stop trolling the actual internet, even if they block it from their own country

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      Reposting my reply to someone else on this topic for visibility:

      The Russian scammers are using a ton of proxies and VPNs. Unfortunately, this change will not affect them unless the Russian government completely removes access to the global Internet, and even then, the corruption is so deep that many officials will be selling access to the global Internet to their friends or people with with money.

      Russian scammers and social media manipulators are here to stay, likely because they’re largely state run initiatives and they’ll still have access to the global Internet.

      What this does is keep the normal Russians insulated from the rest of the world and unable to coordinate outside of their own country, where everything they do is even more tightly controlled by the government.

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      1- All countries have trolls, in one degree or another.
      2- That will also affect the Russian population, who will become even more isolated and powerless.

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    Russian here. This is a super old claim from our government and is a common source of jokes, it’s even called “Cheburnet” (from Cheburashka) colloquially, nobody really treats such claims seriously. Last time Russian government tried to influence internet was when they struggled to ban telegram for several years, and ended up giving up, endorsing it, and moving their official resources to it.

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      God damn bud, thats the best comment I’ve seen in a long damned time :)

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    I’m more concerned that the Luddite politicians in the west will think this is a great idea or the more power hungry ones will see it as a way to take some national sovereignty/control back from the internet–that, right now, enjoys an extra-governmental existence.

    Imagine needing a digital passport to join EuroNet®©™ or having to pay a ‘duty’ to surf AussieLan™™©

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      China only blocks most popular websites, they don’t block random personal pages

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        They do though, some of personal blogs i follow also banned in China; There is a saying in my circle of friends in Mainland China that the blog is “certified by Great Firewall of China” if a person’s blog got blocked

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    Terrible situation, even if you’re in the “well it’s Russia so stuff them” camp. Countries moving to their own Internet is a terrible situation, one we’ve seen before with China and their deep censorship of online media.

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      It would be great, but think about it for a second. Russian bots and trolls that are operated by the government will still exist, it’s not like they would cease trying to spread misinformation or destabilizing opinions. So that won’t change at all. This would primarily affect the people in the country who would now be unable to see real news or learn things the government doesn’t want them to.

      I’m all for giving Russia the finger, but I do fear that it won’t actually make anything better for the rest of us and would just make the people worse off.

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        Russian bots and trolls that are operated by the government will still exist

        I hope I can block whole ASNs originated from orcs land, so I can block those too. Or at least majority of them.

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        I mean, if no normal citizen can access the outside internet then we will know for sure that any connection coming out of Russia has to be a bot. So that would make blocking them much more easier.

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    We must somehow patch a connection in, to ensure they have a sufficient quantity of international memes, cats and porn. Access to the internet is a basic human right these days, we surely cannot abandon them.