Will more funding be needed to keep Intel competitive?
On 1 August 2024, Intel announced financial results for the second quarter of 2024. They weren’t pretty; the company’s stock dropped more than 25 percent as it announced an aggressive plan to cut costs, including layoffs that will impact 15 percent of its entire workforce.
You can’t trust capitalism to take care of your national security
they should nationalize intel if they really care about chip independence
This is the way. This technology is too critical to our future to leave in the hands of the private sector at this point.
Injection of money more often than not does not solve the fundamental problems that lead a business to failure or in this case poor performance. The causes of the poor decisions along the way must also be addressed.
An engineer should be at the helm. MBAs fuck tech companies up.
Pat Gelsinger, Intel’s CEO, is an engineer. He was the lead architect of the 80486 processor. If there’s one thing Intel can’t be accused of, it’s having a CEO who doesn’t understand engineering. I don’t know how good a leader he is, but he does understand designing microprocessors, and he is picking up the pieces from years of complacent MBA types before him.
They brought him in to fix things, after a gaping finance moron named Bob swan took it after Brian krzanich pushed gelsinger out after he rescued it in the 2000s by developing the core series after the pentium 4 failed.
Brian krzanich fiddled because amd was on fire and he thought he could keep arm at bay. Bob swan didn’t understand anything so he just cranked they buybacks.
It’s a nightmare, and it’s just getting worse, their engineering management went to hell because internal politics beat everything else.
Intel’s current CEO is Pat Gelsinger, he’s an engineer who was the chief architect of the i486.
It’s not just who’s at the top, the issue is that the company has gotten too big. There’s a reason why AMD with such a lower staff count has managed to leapfrog Intel.
I suspect Intel has a broader product range than AMD to justify the headcount, but I’m not sure where the extra resources should go.
Their networking chipsets were gold-standard in the 100M and Gigabit era, but their 2.5G stuff is spotty to the point Realtek is considered legit.
They’ve pulled back from flash, SSDs and Optane.
There must be some other rich product lines that they do and AMD doesn’t
AMD doesn’t have fabs, and contracts that work out to TSMC. Intel has fabs worldwide. That alone makes Intel a much more capital-intensive, labor-intensive business.
There’s a reason why AMD with such a lower staff count has managed to leapfrog Intel.
Jim Keller was a pretty big reason.
Intel had Jim Keller, and then Jim Keller left prematurely because of political infighting within Intel.
He could barely get anything done and was blocked all the time, because people thought his longer term goal was to become Intel’s next CEO.
His Royal Core project, which looked promising, has been cancelled by Pat Gelsinger.
Intel had a goose that laid golden eggs, killed it, then threw all the eggs they had into a volcano.
Intel had such a huge competitive lead during AMDs Bulldozer debacle. I assumed they were still making internal advancements and just sitting on them since there wasn’t any need to push the envelope while they had basically no competition.
Now I’m wondering if they did the typical US corporation thing of laying off their actual talent and using their obscene profits from this period for bonuses for their corporate officers.
Mostly, it’s more that they had massive infighting, different projects kept fighting each other because everybody wanted to own “the next big thing”, so they kept smothering other projects in their beds.
Read about knights landing, it was a beautiful piece of engineering that was eaten by politics.
Imagine a knights landing Ai core.
There’s a reason why AMD with such a lower staff count has managed to leapfrog Intel.
AMD just makes the designs and farms out manufacturing. Intel has to make the designs and manufacture the chips themselves.
That should be an advantage for Intel, yet here we are
Would a great time to buy all that stock for so cheap!
Ohh wait these clowns blew 100b USD on buyback already, got no money, their core biz is tanking but hey
Atleast they are getting taxpayer money for “fabs”
Cheers suckers
And took how much from the CHIPs act?
I don’t know mate… 35b?
Keep me honest folks
Intel received the largest benefit from the CHIPS Act with $8.5b
https://www.theverge.com/24166234/chips-act-funding-semiconductor-companies
Damn gonna need way more to fix the Intel than that
Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.
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Nah we want Intel to live so that AMD still has real competition, same reason I’m in favour of Intel getting into the GPU market.
Funny, I speculated to a friend about a year ago that intel’s general fuckery might cause them problems not to far down the road , and here they are. Hmm, if only I had money to back that up… I’d probably have more money or whatever.
Or maybe not so much since I think just about everyone saw this coming. My friend certainly did.
Intel’s primary product is asking for government handouts.
