There has yet to be any of these purported “child protection” scams that would do a damn thing for kids, and only invades the privacy of people that have zero reason to be investigated in the first place
Yah, that would be a great solution in comparison, but it’s still privacy invasive. Not as bad, but it’s still not giving people due process.
Which, not everywhere in the world recognizes that principle as a right, I am aware. But I do consider due process a right, and scanning anything on anyone’s devices without a legally justifiable reason is a violation of that.
I’m not willing to kowtow to a moral panic and just ignore the erosion of privacy “because the children”. And it is a moral panic. As bad as it is, as much as I personally would enjoy five minutes alone with someone that’s making or using kiddie porn of any stripe, it simply isn’t such a common thing that stripping everyone of their privacy, in any way is acceptable.
They wanna figure out a way to target individuals suspected of that kind of crime, awesome. Untargeted, sweeping invasions simply are not acceptable, and I do not care what the purported reason of the week is; kiddie porn, terrorism, security, stopping drugs, I do not care. I have committed no crime, and refuse to give away the presumption of innocence for myself or anyone else.
Look, just because people don’t agree that a specific method will be effective, that doesn’t mean they support it.
That’s shitty thinking, and even shittier behavior. You should be ashamed of yourself for going there in what was previously a civil, friendly discussion.
Tbh, I’ve done all the calling out I feel useful. I get you for sure, but I’m old enough that a single callout is about my limit. I say my peace, then report (in the case of something this rude), then block.
Frankly, good.
There has yet to be any of these purported “child protection” scams that would do a damn thing for kids, and only invades the privacy of people that have zero reason to be investigated in the first place
They could at least do on-device hash lookups and prevent sending. Has zero effect on privacy and does reduce CSAM.
Yah, that would be a great solution in comparison, but it’s still privacy invasive. Not as bad, but it’s still not giving people due process.
Which, not everywhere in the world recognizes that principle as a right, I am aware. But I do consider due process a right, and scanning anything on anyone’s devices without a legally justifiable reason is a violation of that.
I’m not willing to kowtow to a moral panic and just ignore the erosion of privacy “because the children”. And it is a moral panic. As bad as it is, as much as I personally would enjoy five minutes alone with someone that’s making or using kiddie porn of any stripe, it simply isn’t such a common thing that stripping everyone of their privacy, in any way is acceptable.
They wanna figure out a way to target individuals suspected of that kind of crime, awesome. Untargeted, sweeping invasions simply are not acceptable, and I do not care what the purported reason of the week is; kiddie porn, terrorism, security, stopping drugs, I do not care. I have committed no crime, and refuse to give away the presumption of innocence for myself or anyone else.
Ngl that’s pretty sus.
People are morons
yeah cracking down on the child trafficking networks operating on telegram would totally not do a thing /s
It wouldn’t. Anyone into that shit will just go somewhere else, and the price of that is yet another erosion of privacy.
yes if you go after people sharing it on the network you make it harder for them to access it. stop defending csam it’s creepy.
Look, just because people don’t agree that a specific method will be effective, that doesn’t mean they support it.
That’s shitty thinking, and even shittier behavior. You should be ashamed of yourself for going there in what was previously a civil, friendly discussion.
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Gods, people are just dumb.
I am so glad lemmy has a block function
If you block them, it amplifies them. Now you can no longer call them out.
Tbh, I’ve done all the calling out I feel useful. I get you for sure, but I’m old enough that a single callout is about my limit. I say my peace, then report (in the case of something this rude), then block.