Straw man. I never said trans men have no advantage. Keep to the topic at hand, rather than trying to go on a tangent. It’s transparent, and many will assume you’re doing it because you know you can’t win the argument.
Conservative guys complain about women not wanting to date them. People date people they share values with.
Assuming non-conservative women are all ‘removed’ who sleep around is incel nonsense. If they’re choosing not to date conservative men, a large proportion of men, if anything they’re being selective. The opposite of being promiscuous. Data also suggests young women have less sex than previous generations. Most sex happens in long term stable relationships.
If you assume the rest of us know what a MAP is, you’ve likely spent too much time in an echo chamber. It’s pretty weird if I’m honest, like if someone mentioned a scientology term and assumed average people knew what they were talking about.
I would be glad
But you’re not happy about it, are you? Be honest with yourself. You wouldn’t call them removed if you were happy about it. You would live and let live.
Brought it up because you talked about logic and I was making a point out there that most liberals believe this is the case.
I agree. I don’t have any problems with people choosing to stay with who. Shared morals and values are the main reason couples stay together.
That is complete nonsense. The average young woman has more pre-marital sex today with multiple partners than any previous generation. No matter where on the political spectrum.
I’m pretty sure you guys know what MAPs are. If not you can look it up. They’ve been trying to be a part of the LGBT community for quite a while. Because they know their perversion will likely be accepted under the guise of ‘gay rights’. Sooner or later they will be accepted in this community. Because this whole thing is a slippery slope. Never seems to end.
Reason I called them hoes was because pre-marital relationships are haram. Regardless if it’s a man or woman.
Also, if you’re a muslim as your username suggests, and given we know Mohammed was a paedophile by modern standards, you should perhaps spend more time worrying about your own community.
Christian conservatives are very similar. They also obsess about the gay community harbouring paedophiles, while ignoring rampant child sexual abuse within the church.
Applying ‘modern standards’ to history is called Presentism. Women back then were more mature at a younger age and developed much quicker due to the harsh circumstances. Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) was an adult when Muhammad (ﷺ) consummated the marriage.
An ‘adult’ is different in every country today. The age of consent can be 18, 16, 14. Btw, in most european countries it is between 14 and 16. Austria for example has age of consent at 14. Funny enough, most Muslim countries have it between 16 and 18.
Aisha was likely 9-10 when she had sex with Mohammed. That’s not me, that’s plenty of Muslim scholars. It likely isn’t a coincidence that child marriage is prevalent in the Musim world to this day.
Of course, like most religions, people simply ignore the bits or facts they don’t agree with even if they claim to be literalists. That’s just religion. Different flavour, same soda. Obviously you won’t agree with me on that, but we don’t need to agree on that. Just tolerate that different views on this exist.
What should be obvious, is that it would be entirely unfair to judge all Muslims by the paedophiles among you, and the higher prevalence of child marriages in current day Islam. I’ll leave that to Christian conservatives.
But it is a bit much when devout Muslims like you then decide to complain about the gays and claim they’re paedophiles. Sure, find gay sex icky, but these are invariably grown men engaging in consensual sex, from a community that has repeatedly denounced paedophilia, which if anything is far less deviant than you like to imagine. Rich gay businessmen aren’t out there marrying 9 year old cousins.
Women back then were more mature at a younger age
So you’re saying that it didn’t happen, but if it did she was ‘mature for her age’.
When you claim to hate gay people because they’re paedophiles, without evidence of this being prevalent, but then make excuses for paedophilia and rampant child marriage within your own community, it becomes pretty obvious you hate gay people because they’re gay and don’t actually care about age inappropriate relationships.
Obviously, this is going to annoy you, so we’ll leave it at that.
But do try to remember that tolerance goes two ways.
Straw man. I never said trans men have no advantage. Keep to the topic at hand, rather than trying to go on a tangent. It’s transparent, and many will assume you’re doing it because you know you can’t win the argument.
Conservative guys complain about women not wanting to date them. People date people they share values with.
Assuming non-conservative women are all ‘removed’ who sleep around is incel nonsense. If they’re choosing not to date conservative men, a large proportion of men, if anything they’re being selective. The opposite of being promiscuous. Data also suggests young women have less sex than previous generations. Most sex happens in long term stable relationships.
If you assume the rest of us know what a MAP is, you’ve likely spent too much time in an echo chamber. It’s pretty weird if I’m honest, like if someone mentioned a scientology term and assumed average people knew what they were talking about.
But you’re not happy about it, are you? Be honest with yourself. You wouldn’t call them removed if you were happy about it. You would live and let live.
Brought it up because you talked about logic and I was making a point out there that most liberals believe this is the case.
I agree. I don’t have any problems with people choosing to stay with who. Shared morals and values are the main reason couples stay together.
That is complete nonsense. The average young woman has more pre-marital sex today with multiple partners than any previous generation. No matter where on the political spectrum.
I’m pretty sure you guys know what MAPs are. If not you can look it up. They’ve been trying to be a part of the LGBT community for quite a while. Because they know their perversion will likely be accepted under the guise of ‘gay rights’. Sooner or later they will be accepted in this community. Because this whole thing is a slippery slope. Never seems to end.
Reason I called them hoes was because pre-marital relationships are haram. Regardless if it’s a man or woman.
It’s a simple fact that young women are having less sex:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/young-americans-less-sex-intl-scli-wellness/index.html
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066
If I google MAP I don’t get any relevant results. assuming you mean paedophiles, the idea that the gay community condones paedophilia is a myth:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/30/fact-check-lgbtq-community-rejects-false-association-pedophiles/5462805002/
Also, if you’re a muslim as your username suggests, and given we know Mohammed was a paedophile by modern standards, you should perhaps spend more time worrying about your own community.
Christian conservatives are very similar. They also obsess about the gay community harbouring paedophiles, while ignoring rampant child sexual abuse within the church.
Applying ‘modern standards’ to history is called Presentism. Women back then were more mature at a younger age and developed much quicker due to the harsh circumstances. Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) was an adult when Muhammad (ﷺ) consummated the marriage.
An ‘adult’ is different in every country today. The age of consent can be 18, 16, 14. Btw, in most european countries it is between 14 and 16. Austria for example has age of consent at 14. Funny enough, most Muslim countries have it between 16 and 18.
Aisha was likely 9-10 when she had sex with Mohammed. That’s not me, that’s plenty of Muslim scholars. It likely isn’t a coincidence that child marriage is prevalent in the Musim world to this day.
Of course, like most religions, people simply ignore the bits or facts they don’t agree with even if they claim to be literalists. That’s just religion. Different flavour, same soda. Obviously you won’t agree with me on that, but we don’t need to agree on that. Just tolerate that different views on this exist.
What should be obvious, is that it would be entirely unfair to judge all Muslims by the paedophiles among you, and the higher prevalence of child marriages in current day Islam. I’ll leave that to Christian conservatives.
But it is a bit much when devout Muslims like you then decide to complain about the gays and claim they’re paedophiles. Sure, find gay sex icky, but these are invariably grown men engaging in consensual sex, from a community that has repeatedly denounced paedophilia, which if anything is far less deviant than you like to imagine. Rich gay businessmen aren’t out there marrying 9 year old cousins.
So you’re saying that it didn’t happen, but if it did she was ‘mature for her age’.
When you claim to hate gay people because they’re paedophiles, without evidence of this being prevalent, but then make excuses for paedophilia and rampant child marriage within your own community, it becomes pretty obvious you hate gay people because they’re gay and don’t actually care about age inappropriate relationships.
Obviously, this is going to annoy you, so we’ll leave it at that.
But do try to remember that tolerance goes two ways.