Sure is tiresome, people bringing up how the very first time that centrists decided to stand for anything, it was the wholesale slaughter of Palestinians.
Pretty sure the centrists stood for abortion access before making their stance on Palestine clear - remember that time a few days after Biden stepped down when even yall downvoted anything critical of Harris?
Politicians aren’t a matter of black and white… Harris is a mixed bag… And her election would result in the least number of dead Palestinians out of any of the options. Vote for her if you don’t want to continue advocating for genocide.
Pretty sure the centrists stood for abortion access
Which is why they codified roe when they had the chance.
Vote for her if you don’t want to continue advocating for genocide.
I AM ALREADY VOTING FOR HER. I get that you just want everyone to shut up while we support genocide, but some of us have misgivings about the only thing that any centrist can be counted on to actually stand for.
Hey, I’m sorry people are treating you like shit because they assume being against genocide means you’re not on their side.
If you decide to actually not be on their side, PSL is running De La Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to weapons shipments to Israel.
Don’t let this get you down. It’s the same thing as Iraq and Iraq 2.
I’m sorry people are treating you like shit because they assume being against genocide means you’re not on their side.
Me being against genocide means I’m not on their side. I’m in their party and voting for their candidate, but I’m against the only thing any centrist will ever love.
Oh hey, as long as we’re all voting for her and not advocating for a different candidate then I have no objections to protesting events or otherwise advocating to push her further to the left. I just object to advocates for a third party candidate (simply due to America’s voting system).
So one of you didn’t want to use the genocide as political tool and the other of you just wanted to let everyone know that genocide is bad and its all the dems fault? Not the nutjob known as nethanyahu
Nobody is on board with genocide and posting it in direct reply to people who are advocating the less genocide-hungry candidate just makes you look like an attention seeking idiot. Nobody is going to know you’re a centrist when it appears you are equating the obviously less genocide-intent candidate with the vocally genocidal one. You are not brave for doing the bare minimum.
I’ve seen people opposed to genocide referred to as “jihadi cheerleading Jew haters” . One person I spoke with recently said that they hope all Palestinians die in agony.
It seems to me that you’re fine with the assumption that everyone who has even the slightest misgivings about genocide must be a trump supporter, but draw the line at the assumption that anyone who jumps to that conclusion only does so because they support genocide.
You are not brave for doing the bare minimum.
And you aren’t brave for going along with lemmy’s pro-genocide consensus.
I remember 20 years ago when y’all wanted every Arab/Muslim including Palestinians dead and tore through a continent to do it. Now you take the moral high ground after killing thousands
You see, this is part of why I’m so opposed to the current genocide. A casual observer of history might assume that because no politicians were against it, no citizens were.
Were you even around in 2001? I never hung out with politicians. Just regular people, and I remember their reactions and vengeful anger.
I find a lot of young people who weren’t around in 2001 love to take the moral high ground on global affairs, and as a non American that shit makes me angry. You guys don’t get to take the moral high ground after what you did to my country and people and many others, and never even made amends or apologies
I was, and almost everyone I knew was against the wars. I’m not going to claim it was a majority but there was substantial resistance that grew over time. I think initially after 9/11, people were too shocked to really mount an organized resistance right away. A lesson I hope we’ve learned from, since the Bush administration capitalized on this paralysis immediately.
The only stance Democrats won’t abandon is their support for Netanyahu’s genocide.
There we go, took 23 minutes longer to get there than I thought. You guys are getting lazy.
Sure is tiresome, people bringing up how the very first time that centrists decided to stand for anything, it was the wholesale slaughter of Palestinians.
Pretty sure the centrists stood for abortion access before making their stance on Palestine clear - remember that time a few days after Biden stepped down when even yall downvoted anything critical of Harris?
Politicians aren’t a matter of black and white… Harris is a mixed bag… And her election would result in the least number of dead Palestinians out of any of the options. Vote for her if you don’t want to continue advocating for genocide.
Which is why they codified roe when they had the chance.
I AM ALREADY VOTING FOR HER. I get that you just want everyone to shut up while we support genocide, but some of us have misgivings about the only thing that any centrist can be counted on to actually stand for.
Hey, I’m sorry people are treating you like shit because they assume being against genocide means you’re not on their side.
If you decide to actually not be on their side, PSL is running De La Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to weapons shipments to Israel.
Don’t let this get you down. It’s the same thing as Iraq and Iraq 2.
Me being against genocide means I’m not on their side. I’m in their party and voting for their candidate, but I’m against the only thing any centrist will ever love.
Oh hey, as long as we’re all voting for her and not advocating for a different candidate then I have no objections to protesting events or otherwise advocating to push her further to the left. I just object to advocates for a third party candidate (simply due to America’s voting system).
Oh hey, don’t accuse people of being trumpists or third party advocates just because they’re not 100% on board with genocide like you are.
So one of you didn’t want to use the genocide as political tool and the other of you just wanted to let everyone know that genocide is bad and its all the dems fault? Not the nutjob known as nethanyahu
I know this is blasphemy, but we don’t have to sell weapons to Netanyahu.
Nobody is on board with genocide and posting it in direct reply to people who are advocating the less genocide-hungry candidate just makes you look like an attention seeking idiot. Nobody is going to know you’re a centrist when it appears you are equating the obviously less genocide-intent candidate with the vocally genocidal one. You are not brave for doing the bare minimum.
I’ve seen people opposed to genocide referred to as “jihadi cheerleading Jew haters” . One person I spoke with recently said that they hope all Palestinians die in agony.
It seems to me that you’re fine with the assumption that everyone who has even the slightest misgivings about genocide must be a trump supporter, but draw the line at the assumption that anyone who jumps to that conclusion only does so because they support genocide.
And you aren’t brave for going along with lemmy’s pro-genocide consensus.
“Centrists” are just future fascists
I remember 20 years ago when y’all wanted every Arab/Muslim including Palestinians dead and tore through a continent to do it. Now you take the moral high ground after killing thousands
There was a widespread and very active resistance to the wars at that time.
Not to mention, many protesters for Palestinian liberation were children or not even born at that time.
No genocide advocate cares. They just want silence.
Y’all?
Americans. Every one of you who backed post 9/11 invasions which was pretty much the whole country except the Dixie chicks
You see, this is part of why I’m so opposed to the current genocide. A casual observer of history might assume that because no politicians were against it, no citizens were.
Were you even around in 2001? I never hung out with politicians. Just regular people, and I remember their reactions and vengeful anger.
I find a lot of young people who weren’t around in 2001 love to take the moral high ground on global affairs, and as a non American that shit makes me angry. You guys don’t get to take the moral high ground after what you did to my country and people and many others, and never even made amends or apologies
I was, and almost everyone I knew was against the wars. I’m not going to claim it was a majority but there was substantial resistance that grew over time. I think initially after 9/11, people were too shocked to really mount an organized resistance right away. A lesson I hope we’ve learned from, since the Bush administration capitalized on this paralysis immediately.