• NegativeInf@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Equating the Israel-Gaza conflict with anti-democracy is absurd. One side literally wants to end voting, destroy the Constitution, and install a fascist regime that would be far worse for everyone, including Palestinians. If you can’t see the difference, then you’re part of the problem. Go ahead and pretend a hockey puck is an ice cream sandwich if you want, but don’t drag the rest of us into your delusions. Either you’re being intentionally deceitful, or you’ve got the cognitive capacity of an empty bucket.

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      One side literally wants to end voting, destroy the Constitution, and install a fascist regime

      And the other side just supports that in occupied Palestine.

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            I care about the lives of Palestinians, which is why I’m voting for Kamala Harris (and why I was going to vote for Joe Biden). Period.

            If you refuse to accept this reality, that’s on you. And when you sit this election out, and Donald Trump wins and gives Netanyahu the go ahead to turn Gaza into glass, their blood will be on your hands.

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              And when you sit this election out, and Donald Trump wins and gives Netanyahu the go ahead to turn Gaza into glass, their blood will be on your hands

              No, the opposite.

              If I vote for Donald Trump and he helps Netanyahu turn Gaza into glass, then blood is on my hands.

              If I vote for Kamala Harris and she helps Nethayahu turn Gaza into glass (which is looking pretty likely), then blood is on my hands.

              Voting for a pro-Palestine candidate (like Cornel West) is the only way to ensure that blood isn’t on my hands. (But it’ll be on yours.)

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                no u

                Nice one. You’re wrong, but good try I guess? A vote for a third party candidate is equivalent to not voting in our broken, first past the post voting system. In fact, it’s often worse.

                Cornel West

                I just wanted to make sure we’re talking about the same Cornel West. Maybe you can take a look and let me know if we’re on the same page here…

                This guy that the Republican party is pushing to get on the Arizona ballot?

                Republicans scrambled to get Cornel West on the Arizona ballot. The left-wing academic is OK with it - AP News

                To be clear, this Cornel West? The guy who received campaign contributions from billionaire Harlan Crowe (also known as Clarence Thomas’ vacation buddy)?

                Billionaire linked to Clarence Thomas donated to Cornel West’s campaign - The Hill

                Huh. So do Republicans actually really care about Palestinians? I guess Harlan Crowe felt bad about breaking our Supreme Court, and wanted to make things right (lo fucking l)?

                In your universe where this election is happening in a vacuum, what would be the reason that the GOP would be doing everything they can to get a progressive candidate on the ballot in specific swing states? Why would well known far right billionaires be funding the campaign of a progressive candidate. They just believe in free and fair elections, right? Lol.

                But no, genuinely, why do you think this is happening?

                Or maybe, and bear with me here, maybe they understand better than you that having someone like that even present on a ballot, will take votes away from their competition.

                So you’re either a bad faith actor pretending not to understand basic electoral concepts in your own country, or you’re dangerously fucking ignorant.

                Assuming it’s not the former, let me help you fix that: your vote for Cornel West will not exculpate you of the deaths of the millions of Palestinians that will die directly due to Trump getting elected (which, as we’ve established, is what you’re doing by voting for someone like Cornel West).

                More:

                https://apnews.com/article/kennedy-west-third-party-2024-election-10c4c166ad4d41cab73660c33a69a58a

                https://newrepublic.com/article/177213/cornel-west-2024-charlatan-narcissist

                https://www.newsweek.com/cornel-west-blames-nato-russias-war-ukraine-1812320

                (Probably just a coincidence that this third party candidate being funded by known far-right billionaires appears to want to dismantle NATO. I’m sure Russia has nothing to do with it as we know they’re too polite to ever attempt to interfere in our elections. 🤡.)

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                  Probably just a coincidence that this third party candidate being funded by known far-right billionaires appears to want to dismantle NATO.

                  Nato should be dismantled. It should have been dismantled 30 years ago.

                  After the Cold War ended, there should have been a global military de-escalation, including shutting down US overseas military bases, and dismantling Nato. Instead, the military bases were kept open and Nato was expanded.

                  Experts have been saying for a decade that expanding Nato would provoke conflict with Russia. And now everyone’s acting shocked that that’s exactly what happened.

                  (And now America is saying we need Nato to protect Ukraine in a conflict that Nato provoked.)