• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
      10·
      3 months ago

      It’s a little unfair to the first Alien movie. It’s been a while, but the first one is often hailed as an example of everyone acting as intelligently as makes sense for the character’s job and motivation.

      Prometheus in the other hand… I think Ridley Scott doesn’t respect scientists very much.

      • Subverb@lemmy.world
        8·
        3 months ago

        Scott obviously hates scientists or is completely oblivious to how science works. The crew is the least scientific group of people ever assembled on film.

        The Prometheus cost a trillion dollars and Wayland is betting his life on the success of the mission, but off the top of my head:

        • The scientists aren’t told what their mission is until they arrive at their destination which is so ridiculous, but you can argue that’s what they signed up for, so okay. But that gives no one a chance to say “oh, then we should pack this odd piece of equipment.”
        • Wayland’s presence isn’t known to the crew, so no one is prepared as any sort of backup to David other than his daughter.
        • There’s one autodoc and it’s only configured for males so again… Travel to another star after spending a trillion dollars with no backup? But somehow it can perform a C-section on a female with an alien in her. Okay.
        • The pilot has to stand up? Really?
        • The atmosphere is breathable so on that alone they take their helmets off. Sigh.

        He should have brought the scientists and engineers that designed, tested and built the ship itself, because they were good.

        I mean the list is just goes on and on about how unscientific the mission is. There’s a whole cottage industry of youtubers pointing out the innumerable flaws in that movie.

        I mean seriously. What the fuck.

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
    24·
    3 months ago

    The entire crew acted like idiots for most of the movie. I guess that’s what happens when you negotiate the lowest paying contracts that you can. Remember the guy complaining about his contract for the first 1/3 of the movie?

    • nexguy@lemmy.world
      17·
      3 months ago

      What do you mean? Do you know how dirty the dining table gets and then you have to clean the bulkhead. Check lights and buttons. Make sure the ship is pointed in the right direction and going the right speed. 90 minutes of content right there!

  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
    14·
    3 months ago

    i want a “saving the world” movie where the sole reason the team is able to do it is because everyone else is a horror movie moron and the protagonists tell them to stop doing stupid shit.

    • CptEnder@lemmy.world
      6·
      3 months ago

      “I think he’s a serial killer! He’s waiting outside to catch us!”

      “Ok call 911, lock the doors.”

      “We don’t have service!”

      “Ok use 911 over WiFi”

      “They’ll never get here in time, were in the middle of nowhere”

      Texts geolocation of serial killer to police

      FBI easily arrests meat face man who only move at a walking pace

        • Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          Too fucking depressing, especially when you realize the same sort of moronic attitudes, anti-intellectualism and inertia for byrocracys sake have existed on ones life for too many years, but one has just grown too accustomed to it. It really fucking makes one hate itself and makes one want to do SOMETHING to break these monkey people’s moronic inertia against everything that might make the world a better place for as many people as possible. Fuck, is this self the r word? Im drunk, I dont know.

      • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        3 months ago

        And I’ll add the disclaimer that it might be a just too close to reality. I was expecting a comedy and I ended being just depressed because I could see the world going down that route.

  • RadicallyBland@lemmy.world
    141·
    3 months ago

    It blows my mind when people defend Prometheus and Covenant. ESPECIALLY when they say either one is their fave of the franchise. WTF

    • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      3 months ago

      Just as Starbucks coffee is coffee for people who don’t like coffee, Prometheus and Covenant are Alien movies for people who don’t like Alien movies.

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.world
      8·
      3 months ago

      I’ll be honest, I kinda like Prometheus. I think it has some absolutely gorgeous scenes, although the plot is pretty bad. Covenant is in the same vein, with less beautiful scenes and a worse plot

      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
        10·
        3 months ago

        The thing that killed Prometheus was entirely the script. Set design? Great. CGI? Great. Acting? Great.

        But when everyone character acts exactly opposite of what their chosen profession was, I can only come to the conclusion that Ridley Scott has a deep disrespect for Scientists.

        The Geologist/Cave Mapper got lost. The Archeologist contaminated the site. The Biologist didn’t recognize a treat response. The Anthropologist couldn’t separate her work from her religious beliefs. I can see the subtext that Scott was going for and I disagree with it.

  • netvor@lemmy.world
    42·
    3 months ago

    OT, but I never googled Ridley Scott to know how they look like (or even gender) but in my mind the face that pops up is Sigourney Weaver. And no disrespect but I kinda like it :D

    • Aermis@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 months ago

      I seriously thought ridley Scott was sigourney weaver for the longest time until people saying “he” I’m like I’m sure Ellen Ripley is female.

  • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
    42·
    3 months ago

    Is that a religion to a specific movie, or just the genre in general?

    Edit: reference