• hate2bme@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Somehow it won’t get done in her first term but vote her back in and she promises it will get done in her second term. How do I know? Because every single president does the same exact thing.

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      3 months ago

      Because every single president does the same exact thing.

      What are you talking about?

      Biden got about as much as he could get through a Republican controlled House and a filibustering Senate: a major COVID relief bill, a major infrastructure bill, and a major environmental reform bill.

      Trump did a shitload in his one term:

      • Replaced 3 Supreme Court justices and a lot of lower court judges who went on to overturn Roe v. Wade and Chevron, deliver a shitload of conservative decisions, and block a bunch of Biden executive actions (including student loan forgiveness, all sorts of COVID policies, and a bunch of economic regulations).
      • Major tax cuts in 2017 for corporations and high earners
      • Withdrew from the Paris accords and rolled back a lot of Obama EPA regs
      • Made shifts towards privatization of k-12 education, including towards religious private schools.

      Obama signed a bunch of stuff into law his first two years:

      • Obamacare
      • Universal healthcare for children under S-CHIP
      • Student loan reform, creating public service loan forgiveness and much better repayment plans while cutting out private lenders who took all the upside with none of the downside.
      • Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
      • Repealed Don’t Ask Don’t Tell
      • Passed Dodd Frank, including the creation of the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau
      • School lunch reform

      Bush campaigned on tax cuts and got them, and then got a bunch of other stuff in from his first term related to 9/11 and the aftermath: The Patriot Act, authorization for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, etc.

      If anything, presidents are far less effective their second term than their first term.

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        3 months ago

        What a terrible reply. I never said presidents don’t get anything done in their first term. Just pointing out how a lot of shit they campaign on doesn’t get done so they campaign on the same shit again.

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          3 months ago

          And they’re telling you you’re wrong. Biden campaigned on getting stuff done and he got stuff done. Don’t project your pessimism onto everyone else, it’s not helpful

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            3 months ago

            Well of course there are things that get done. I feel like I’m talking to a child right now. I thought when I switched to lemmy I wouldn’t have to explain every single detail in my comments, boy was I wrong. You guys do not understand and you’re arguing like you do.

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              3 months ago

              Don’t be obtuse.
              They provided you a ridiculous amount of counter points.

              Please go back to Reddit.

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                3 months ago

                Counterpoints to something I wasn’t even talking about. I never once said presidents don’t get stuff done in their first term. They just listed stuff they did in their first term.

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        3 months ago

        Only comment that makes any sense in reply to mine. This is true. I’m just saying they always campaign on the same shit that they can’t get done in their first term.

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      3 months ago

      While you’re probably right, there really isn’t a better choice here. It is what it is.

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          3 months ago

          Yeah Walz is the kind of person I really want up there. It’s not just that he’s liberal(as far as our country’s standards go) but also the fact that he has a great track record on delivery.

          I’d still vote anyways to keep DT out but you know how it is. It’s hard to be excited given how it feels that the Dems have a habit of wiggling their way out of delivering on important issues.

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      3 months ago

      This is how politics work. This is neither new nor a deep critique.

      Most people have too much mental load in load in their life. Politicians tie things to election years because people would forget what they did otherwise.