No, we understand your point perfectly: you’re making a concern-trolling argument to shill for Trump.
Additionally, you can fuck right off with the condescending lie that the only possible reason someone might disagree with you is that they “can’t understand” (i.e. implying that they’re stupid or ignorant).
Nope. I’m actually being good faith. Genuinely. Check my post history if you want. You can disagree with someone and acknowledge they aren’t arguing in bad faith. Like I think you’re good faith even though you’re coming across with a bunch of ad hominems and stuff, but I think you believe what you’re saying.
And I’m not being condescending. I think people can absolutely understand my point. Otherwise, I wouldn’t waste time trying to communicate it. I’m saying I think people are mischaracterizing my position.
Literally, all I’m saying is: when we make criticisms of the other side, those criticisms are usually stronger in the long run if they’re based on the actual positions they take rather than straw-manned ones. And I think this is a strawmanned critique. That’s my whole point.
And I’m not being condescending. I think people can absolutely understand my point.
Your implication is that if they understood, they would agree. That’s the condescending part.
In reality, we understand but disagree, because you’re the one who’s actually wrong. You need to get that through your head and quit insulting everybody’s intelligence.
Literally, all I’m saying is: when we make criticisms of the other side, those criticisms are usually stronger in the long run if they’re based on the actual positions they take rather than straw-manned ones. And I think this is a strawmanned critique.
And literally everyone else in this thread is telling you you’re wrong – delusionally so. This is the same [im]plausibly deniable mob-boss speak Trump uses All. The. Fucking. Time. It’s not hard to recognize! It’s literally his favorite rhetorical technique.
No, we understand your point perfectly: you’re making a concern-trolling argument to shill for Trump.
Additionally, you can fuck right off with the condescending lie that the only possible reason someone might disagree with you is that they “can’t understand” (i.e. implying that they’re stupid or ignorant).
Nope. I’m actually being good faith. Genuinely. Check my post history if you want. You can disagree with someone and acknowledge they aren’t arguing in bad faith. Like I think you’re good faith even though you’re coming across with a bunch of ad hominems and stuff, but I think you believe what you’re saying.
And I’m not being condescending. I think people can absolutely understand my point. Otherwise, I wouldn’t waste time trying to communicate it. I’m saying I think people are mischaracterizing my position.
Literally, all I’m saying is: when we make criticisms of the other side, those criticisms are usually stronger in the long run if they’re based on the actual positions they take rather than straw-manned ones. And I think this is a strawmanned critique. That’s my whole point.
Your implication is that if they understood, they would agree. That’s the condescending part.
In reality, we understand but disagree, because you’re the one who’s actually wrong. You need to get that through your head and quit insulting everybody’s intelligence.
And literally everyone else in this thread is telling you you’re wrong – delusionally so. This is the same [im]plausibly deniable mob-boss speak Trump uses All. The. Fucking. Time. It’s not hard to recognize! It’s literally his favorite rhetorical technique.