Dude. You are way overreacting and misinterpreting what I’ve said.
Saying “thing that trump said means this racist thing and not that one” is in no way equivalent to anything you’ve accused me of.
I’ve read theory. Kropotkin. Marx (not just manifesto, but kapital and other serious works). I’ve read nearly every book Chomsky has ever written. It is important to understand the nuances of propaganda. When we misinterpret something trump says intentionally to score political points, which I believe we are doing in this case (and which Republicans do all the time), there are pros and cons to that.
Pros: it can encourage people to vote, gets attention, energizes people
Cons: it misleads people by ignoring context and the other systemic issues at play here: namely focusing on this invented idea that there are “black jobs” instead of the idea that politicians play racial groups off each other all the time and have throughout american and european history by blaming immigrants for economic issues like unemployment.
None of that is pro fascist. I’m calling the orange fascist a racist. This site is largely left-leaning. These comments are aimed at my fellow leftists to encourage us to think critically about the political messaging Dems are putting out because it can be instructive to leftist causes.
I’m encouraging a critical, realpolitik understanding of the messaging around this case AND acknowledging that the orange fascist is indeed racist and that this sort of (in my opinion) bad-faith messaging can be beneficial in the short term but can be distracting and potentially harmful in the long run. People are quick to see criticism of the side they identify with as supporting the other side - that is not what’s happening here. If you look at what I’ve said in good faith, I believe you’ll see my point even if you disagree. I’ve laid it out pretty clearly, imo.
When we misinterpret something trump says intentionally to score political points, which I believe we are doing in this case, there are pros and cons to that.
See this is exactly what I’m talking about, right here. They know that this is the exact kind of shit people like you get caught up on, and they use it as a weapon against us.
This is a man who does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. If this were a vacuum, if it was Mitt Romney or something, yeah sure. But this is Donald Trump. A literal white supremacist.
Maybe you’re only aware of his exploits starting in 2016, or even back during the Apprentice, so here you go.
A wiki article about it that is literally big enough to warrant it’s own page, which I’m sure would be the case for any non-racist right (show me one person who isn’t racist but has a “Racial views of X” Wiki page)?
I’m glad you’ve read things, but maybe it’s time for a refresher. Fascist tactics have changed a bit with the Internet and everything, but by and large, the tactics are the same as they were 100 years ago.
Just be mindful that these people know your virtues and are actively using them for their own gain, to ultimately take away your freedom and possibly kill you.
Dude. You are way overreacting and misinterpreting what I’ve said.
Saying “thing that trump said means this racist thing and not that one” is in no way equivalent to anything you’ve accused me of.
I’ve read theory. Kropotkin. Marx (not just manifesto, but kapital and other serious works). I’ve read nearly every book Chomsky has ever written. It is important to understand the nuances of propaganda. When we misinterpret something trump says intentionally to score political points, which I believe we are doing in this case (and which Republicans do all the time), there are pros and cons to that.
Pros: it can encourage people to vote, gets attention, energizes people
Cons: it misleads people by ignoring context and the other systemic issues at play here: namely focusing on this invented idea that there are “black jobs” instead of the idea that politicians play racial groups off each other all the time and have throughout american and european history by blaming immigrants for economic issues like unemployment.
None of that is pro fascist. I’m calling the orange fascist a racist. This site is largely left-leaning. These comments are aimed at my fellow leftists to encourage us to think critically about the political messaging Dems are putting out because it can be instructive to leftist causes.
I’m encouraging a critical, realpolitik understanding of the messaging around this case AND acknowledging that the orange fascist is indeed racist and that this sort of (in my opinion) bad-faith messaging can be beneficial in the short term but can be distracting and potentially harmful in the long run. People are quick to see criticism of the side they identify with as supporting the other side - that is not what’s happening here. If you look at what I’ve said in good faith, I believe you’ll see my point even if you disagree. I’ve laid it out pretty clearly, imo.
See this is exactly what I’m talking about, right here. They know that this is the exact kind of shit people like you get caught up on, and they use it as a weapon against us.
This is a man who does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. If this were a vacuum, if it was Mitt Romney or something, yeah sure. But this is Donald Trump. A literal white supremacist.
Maybe you’re only aware of his exploits starting in 2016, or even back during the Apprentice, so here you go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
A wiki article about it that is literally big enough to warrant it’s own page, which I’m sure would be the case for any non-racist right (show me one person who isn’t racist but has a “Racial views of X” Wiki page)?
I’m glad you’ve read things, but maybe it’s time for a refresher. Fascist tactics have changed a bit with the Internet and everything, but by and large, the tactics are the same as they were 100 years ago.
Just be mindful that these people know your virtues and are actively using them for their own gain, to ultimately take away your freedom and possibly kill you.