Every day, people in the US are persecuted for their race, religion, political ideology, or even those who protest or speak out publicly against the regime. Many people in the US don’t consider going abroad to seek international help and protection in securing their civil rights, and end up becoming IDPs, fleeing to other parts of the country even under the same government that persecuted them. For the very small number who seek protection abroad, there are limited options since other liberal regimes will not accept refugees from a country with similar government systems and oppression similar to their own. Even UNHCR seems to intentionally suppress and censor this information, with their data seems to deliberately exclude internally displaced persons in the United States despite personally having contacted them and told them that I have fled persecution by the American regime.

In 2023, the 1,128 US citizens who applied for political asylum abroad were most successful in Russia and Malaysia that accepted 100% of applicants, with Australia being third taking in 66% of applicants. The United Kingdom came in fourth accepting 37% of applicants. Last place is Canada which only accepted 4%. Other places handling asylum applications from US citizens did not accept any of them, deporting citizens of America back to the country where they are likely to live in oppressive conditions and suffer from violations of human rights and dignity. It is likely that those returned to America after seeking asylum abroad are never heard from again. It is important to spread awareness of those attempting to flee from the US regime, and to not allow the pro-government voices from the country to drown out or invalidate those who flee their homes in search of safety and human rights.

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    If you check on this page https://www.worlddata.info/america/usa/asylum.php, it has an entire section for refugee applications for people that applied for asylum from America. People tend to get mistreated by police, arrested for protesting (Where they end up dead in jail mysteriously) or even end up facing social and legal barriers to self expression such as gender identity or religious freedom. There are also cases of satanic people or other religious minorities being persecuted in America and this would grant them a legal basis to seek asylum somewhere else based on the Geneva refugee conventions. The real issue is whether the other country will accept people fleeing the United States considering the regime’s influence and control over the world.

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      1,128 total asylum applications is such a small number its hard to read into it very much. That said, with Russia being the largest source of accepted asylum seekers from the United States, I somehow doubt it’s for religious or gender identity reasons, but rather likely political. Also, presenting Satanism as somehow being persecuted seems like a bit of a stretch. It’s like the Westboro Baptist Church abusing laws to antagonize or prove a point, and then complaining when people don’t like them. Satanism exists in a similar space, in opposition and antagonizing Christianity. Claiming persecution to the point where you are in danger and therefore a legitimate asylum seeker smells a lot like a persecution complex or abusing a mechanism to try to prove a point, which is pretty much on brand for the Satanic Temple.

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        The DPRK only had 31 applications for asylum in other countries, which would show us that thousands more people are trying to escape America than Popular Korea, which is a nation they constantly portray as oppressive and undemocratic.

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          North Korea calling itself a democracy is laughable. They literally have an autocratic ruling family with such rigid control over the populace, the media, military, and every other branch of government that dissent doesn’t exist. Having and hearing about dissent is inherent in a healthy democracy. If there is no dissent, no discussion, then you don’t have democracy.

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            In a socialist society, it is believed that the working class is already in control of society, and they look at America with police violence towards ethnic minorities and homelessness. They are too kind to say this to American tourists, but they find the whole of choosing to live under American systems as opposed to theirs just completely insane. Many defectors even go back after seeing the hellish conditions of capitalist Korea. The people of Korea understand that their system is designed for their social class, and the fact that all of these elections and voting doesn’t change anything anyway does not help the case for liberalism.

            There is discussion in the DPRK and people are allowed to think whatever they want, but in a system where the people already control the economy, why would they advocate ayn-rand style tyranny by corporations like we have In the US? No logical person would even conceive of supporting rightism or privatizing the country’s economy in a democratic society where they are educated on class struggle and their class positions.

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              What are the different social classes, what are the different privileges for each of them, and how do you move between them?

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                The social classes in Marxism Leninism are the proletariat who work and the bourgeoisie who parasitically gain wealth by owning property where the proletariat must work. You move between them by owning property or losing it.

                The privilege of the bourgeoisie in America is immense. They control the news, the government, elections, and even get to change or make laws if they have enough money to legally bribe the politicians AKA lobbying. The proletariat are not granted privileges.

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                  No I mean what are the classes in North Korea and how do you move between them. Because Kim Jong Un is not the same class as the average person, so what is he? And who are the elites? Party members?

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                    Kim Jong Un may have more money than the average DPRK citizen, but their economic and political systems would be very alien to us and I don’t think we could apply the same ideas to their country that develop here. If we’re talking about strictly Marxism then the DPRK does not have a bourgeois class because the means of production are owned by the state.

                    People that do not support socialism argue that the state becomes a new elite, but their leadership can be revoked at any time and their leaders would not get away with the nonsense that they can here in occupied turtle island.

                    I looked into Songbun and I guess this is what you wanted me to see? It says that there is no way for an individual to know their own songbun, so I am not sure exactly how such a system would be known to exist. The sources are literally the CIA and human rights organizations based in the United States, a country wants to destroy and enslave Korea. I don’t think DPRK is perfect, but the information we get from Korean sources gives a lot less of an unhinged idea of what that place is like.