I think what the USian liberals on here are missing is perspective. I think they have a worldview where the election is all that matters, so any whiff of dissent MUST mean the “tankies” are out to make the blue team lose.
Liberals, do you really think undecided voters in swing states are making voting decisions based on political threads on Lemmy?
If you truly want to understand instead of just downvote and run, try and mentally transpose this situation onto the British empire 100+ years ago. Sure, there are elections, but the grinding bloodthirsty machine of empire proceeds apace with no regard to the election before or after. Sure, one party is worse, that’s the literal manipulative trap of first past the post.
When we look at this world, there is one nation that has been terrorizing the world for over 70 years. Unless you are very naive, you shouldn’t expect compliant national media to give a balanced portrait of this history.
We’re not going to stop talking about the bloodshed and the empire and the propaganda until it has been burned to the ground. You can join the media and intelligence services, and do everything in your power to silence us - or you could consider that perhaps our positions are principled. Perhaps we once believed just like you did, so we see how close you are to piercing the veil of deception.
Or we are all literally paid shills and you don’t have to change any of your beliefs because the United States is a beacon of freedom and justice to the whole world…
Perfect response.
I would just like to add:
I think what the USian liberals on here are missing is perspective. I think they have a worldview where the election is all that matters, so any whiff of dissent MUST mean the “tankies” are out to make the blue team lose.
Liberals, do you really think undecided voters in swing states are making voting decisions based on political threads on Lemmy?
If you truly want to understand instead of just downvote and run, try and mentally transpose this situation onto the British empire 100+ years ago. Sure, there are elections, but the grinding bloodthirsty machine of empire proceeds apace with no regard to the election before or after. Sure, one party is worse, that’s the literal manipulative trap of first past the post.
When we look at this world, there is one nation that has been terrorizing the world for over 70 years. Unless you are very naive, you shouldn’t expect compliant national media to give a balanced portrait of this history.
We’re not going to stop talking about the bloodshed and the empire and the propaganda until it has been burned to the ground. You can join the media and intelligence services, and do everything in your power to silence us - or you could consider that perhaps our positions are principled. Perhaps we once believed just like you did, so we see how close you are to piercing the veil of deception.
Or we are all literally paid shills and you don’t have to change any of your beliefs because the United States is a beacon of freedom and justice to the whole world…